Ukrainian War Developments

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Bill Blazo said:
ISW had my respect in the first few days of the war, but it has recently degenerated completely into a mouthpiece of the Ukrainian military. Their maps in the south and east were ridiculously wrong for weeks. And every other sentence in their daily updates now begins with "the Ukrainian General Staff reports." There's no serious effort to question or challenge what's being reported by the Ukrainians, much of which is highly amplified propaganda designed to keep Western support and arms shipments flowing.
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Got a better source? Please share it! FAOD this does not include the Russian High Command or mouthpieces therefor.
 
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As of yesterday, the UN counted 2788 civilian casualties, with 1707 being injured and 1081 dead since the start of the war on february 24th.

The majority of casualties happened as "collateral damage" of artillery strikes, missiles and air strikes

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For reference, between 3000 to 7000 civilians were killed during the 2003 invasion of Iraq, which lasted over a month.
 
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Nivacat

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sheogorath said:
For reference, between 3000 to 7000 civilians were killed during the 2003 invasion of Iraq, which lasted over a month.
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10872 Civilians were killed by US/Coalition forces between March 19th to April 15th (Iraqi ministry of health statement released on 2019- The new birth and death statistics office) and the invasion lasted for 24 days, army estimated 11000-15000 were killed in action, Cities had damaged Basra City, Faw city, Um Qasar City, Um Qasar port, TheyQar/Nasiriyah, Najaf, Myssayab, Jurf El Sakar, Baghdad, Rutbah, Araar, Mousel, Salah El-Din (Balad, Door, Tikreet), and Kirkuk.
 
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Bill Blazo

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Maikeru said:
Got a better source? Please share it! FAOD this does not include the Russian High Command or mouthpieces therefor.
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Oh absolutely, there are plenty of better sources. For daily action and equipment losses, there's things like Oryx, Military Land, Ukraine Weapons Tracker. For maps, the best source I've found so far is Suriyak. All can be found on Twitter. I also recommend the daily maps and updates of the French MOD, which has been generally far more accurate than the Americans and the British.
 
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Bill Blazo said:
Oh absolutely, there are plenty of better sources. For daily action and equipment losses, there's things like Oryx, Military Land, Ukraine Weapons Tracker. For maps, the best source I've found so far is Suriyak. All can be found on Twitter. I also recommend the daily maps and updates of the French MOD, which has been generally far more accurate than the Americans and the British.
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I get pilloried on here for posting Oryx and UWT (both of which I rate). Will have a look at MilitaryLand. How do you know the French maps are the most accurate though?

Edit: Now following MilitaryLand and Suriyak. Thanks!
 
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enroger

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That is the essential question, because the Russian army was not yet ready for this war. But for some reason, from Putin's point of view, it must have been the last possible moment.
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My impression is that Russia sort of hurried into it. If they planned this in advanced they'd have at least stock up on PGMs, some here may chalk it up to Russian incompetence but I'm not buying it. Something spooked Putin big time....
 
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