Ukrainian War Developments

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Darkon112

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I did not post any direct statement from the Ukrainians. In what respect is it propaganda? Seems very clear that a Russian ship has been destroyed.
You didn't with those twits back ? . And read what I wrote. The fucking statement and propaganda that the Ukrainians hit it with a Tochka is BS. Likely a mishandling of ammo or something by the Russians.. Fuck all to do with any Ukrainian action.
 

supersnoop

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Strange that he ask for 1% of all weapons... We gave all of our stockpiles of compatible ammunitions, atgm and carl gustav and they are not happy ? Would have been better to send him our crumbling FA-18 so they can crash all arround their airports after a day or two of use.

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Probably at least 15 years ago now, I was watching vehicle techs in Pet work on a M113 used for ADATS, lots of black smoke was coming from the exhaust. If it's still around, I'm sure the CF is willing to give it to Zelensky, lol.
 

FADH1791

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How do you define towns and cities? The Russians have taken Kherson, Melitopol, Berdyansk, Volnovakha, to name just a few examples. Are those towns or cities in your eyes?

The fundamental problem here is that the Russians botched the initial phase of the campaign and are now struggling to recover. They vastly underestimated the Ukrainians based on Putin's delusions about how they're all "one people" and flawed intelligence assessments saying this campaign was going to be just like 2014. Now the Russian army is in the middle of a full-blown conventional war that it simply wasn't prepared to fight. On the plus side for the Russians, it seems like they finally *get it*...by which I mean they have settled on the strategic plan they should have had in the beginning: seize Donbas, establish a land bridge to Crimea, cripple the Ukrainian military. I doubt that capturing Kiev and Odesa are part of the plan anymore. They gave up on those objectives a long time ago, and they were smart to do so.
I disagree with one thing. They will make a move for Odessa. From the looks of it seems like probing attacks at the southwest region. Also they have Russian marines in the Black Sea waiting for the order for an amphibious assault. Likely Odessa will be attacks via sea and land in the east. How ever they will likely move to make an assault for Odessa after the Donbas is surrounded, Khariv and the other eastern cities are taken. Odessa is likely be the last place that will be attacked. Now the downside is they give Ukrainian forces much more time to entrench their forces and prepare defenses. So it will be a bloody battle. But for Russia to get a real strategic win is to turn Ukraine into a landlocked failed state.
 

Darkon112

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Not a big deal? The Japanese import most of the LNG from Sakhalin. This is like 9% of Japanese LNG imports. While I am sure the market could basically swap Russian LNG sales from Japan to China, and that whoever sells to China could then sell to Japan, this isn't something trivial to do. It will be much easier for Japan to switch Russian energy imports than Europe. But I wouldn't say it is not a big deal.
Wouldn't this in be more costly in the end for Japan ?
 

tokenanalyst

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What's embarrassing are their numerous and inexplicable operational failures in the face of a clearly weaker enemy. That's why they've become a laughingstock in the West. They opened the first day of the war with fewer than 100 guided missile strikes. Didn't even really touch anything in the core Ukrainian military. China should take note that if things go south with Taiwan, the first day of the war needs at least 1,000 cruise and ballistic missile strikes. No amateur hour, no BS. Just go in with overwhelming force.
If they had used more military power the first day the civilians causalities would have been much LOT higher and even Russia friendly nations wouldn't have tolerated that. Much like I say, once the civilians are gone that beautiful country of Ukraine is starting resemble more like Syria and every day without a agreement is a day closer to Russia annexing all Eastern Ukraine, something that the Chinese don't want.

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Abominable

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I disagree with one thing. They will make a move for Odessa. From the looks of it seems like probing attacks at the southwest region. Also they have Russian marines in the Black Sea waiting for the order for an amphibious assault. Likely Odessa will be attacks via sea and land in the east. How ever they will likely move to make an assault for Odessa after the Donbas is surrounded, Khariv and the other eastern cities are taken. Odessa is likely be the last place that will be attacked. Now the downside is they give Ukrainian forces much more time to entrench their forces and prepare defenses. So it will be a bloody battle. But for Russia to get a real strategic win is to turn Ukraine into a landlocked failed state.
I think Russia will avoid taking Odessa if they can. It's a historically important Russian city and they'll try avoid another Mariupol. The Nazis there have already fortified schools, hospitals and like Mariupol have refused to let civilians leave.

If it puts the Black Sea fleet at risk or if the Ukrainians start killing civilians again then they may have no choice unfortunately.
 

SteelBird

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One thing is proven

Russian cannot take towns and cities

even the ones they take they can’t hold

Mariupol is cut off and Russia still can’t take the city

odessa and Kiev are much larger
I think that taking cities require street fight and the Russians are not specialized in that field.
 

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