Ukrainian War Developments

Stealthflanker said:

Or it's an ammunition mishandling. As simple as that.

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So far we have three versions.

One being the munitions mishandling, second was Tochka-U Which hard to believe as the fire was there first while Tochka will create relatively huge boom immediately, third was the ammo catch fire from fragments of Tochka U being shot down. Your version adds another which makes it the 4th.

The port did subjected to Tochka attack at 19th with claim that it was shot down. Today however the video evidence didnt show any indication of launch by Russian air defense to intercept ballistic missiles. If there were any there should be one asSAM launch are kinda loud.

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In any case... showing that these ships were unloading in this port was plainly stupid... it's known gps positions for guided artillery or drone strike.

They are huge targets for long range artillery. They could even throw a salvo with Smerch or unguided Katyusha rocket and expecting to get one of these ships, even with weapons with bad CEP of 200m...

Or just a couple of guys with Javelins can get a go on a target like that at at 3km of distance.

Strange that he ask for 1% of all weapons... We gave all of our stockpiles of compatible ammunitions, atgm and carl gustav and they are not happy ? Would have been better to send him our crumbling FA-18 so they can crash all arround their airports after a day or two of use.

The cause of the ship's destruction matters to some extent, but at the end of the day this is downright embarrassing for the Russians regardless of why it happened (on-board accident, artillery strike, ballistic missile strike, whatever). It just speaks to the fact that they've been disorganized and confused about what they're doing since day one. Why is Ukrainian artillery still allowed to hit targets that far? Where is the Russian Air Force? Vacationing in Sochi? A month into the conflict and the Russians are still not going in there with overwhelming and concentrated force. They've dispersed and divided their troops across multiple fronts, and are now finding it hard to even capture Mariupol (at this point one may honestly doubt if they'll ever capture it, although they'll probably get it). It just feels like amateur hour. The Russians have seriously damaged their strategic credibility with this campaign, because in the West the Russian army has become a laughingstock. And some of that is definitely deserved, though not all. It's just crazy.

Maikeru said:

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Jesus, dude you already posted direct statement from the Ukrainians. Do you think reposting this but from a indirect sources word for word claiming the same shit Ukrainian propaganda helps your cause or standing here ?

Not sure how this sanction on Russia would do anything. Other countries and people can buy Russian gold.

Both China and India are looking for bargain.

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The biggest question it's how the EU and Japan will achieve this, Russia are probably sure to create an energy mess if they are not able to do it !

Pack it up, Russkies, you lost because the gringos say so. And they would know because they totally didn't lose in Afghanistan or Vietnam!




This article is so embarassingly written, that it had to be done by some State Dept. intern and Tyler just put his name to it.

Russia has effectively galvanized the Ukrainian population against a common foe and upgraded the image of Ukraine's fighting forces dramatically while downgrading its own to a stunning degree on the world stage. Even more so, Russia's actions have aligned NATO, the EU, and the vast majority of other nations around the globe against them. The unprecedented sanctions placed on Russia are a weapon of mass destruction in their own right. They will obliterate the Russian economy, quickly deplete the Kremlin's financial reserves, and isolate the country from the world community and its global markets that are critical to economic survival.

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Its funny how the logic of "Russians have galvanized the Ukranian population"(which seems wishful bs) doesn't to appy to the west galvanizing the russian society through the sanctions and wanton russophobia with calls to mass murder russians around the world:

As a result of its own actions, the very regime that started this baffling war could soon find itself fighting for survival domestically. Carefully edited propaganda can only go so far. When shelves and bellies are empty, financial futures turn into a black hole, and many sons disappear into a mystical conflict in Ukraine, of all places, public perception of the war will be harder and harder to control and negative sentiment will be harder to suppress.

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The entire article is an excersize in projection and wishful thinkin.

A better video of the fire on the Russian Navy Lst and the ships ho escape from the fire hell on the port

Atomicfrog said:

The biggest question it's how the EU and Japan will achieve this, Russia are probably sure to create an energy mess if they are not able to do it !

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If the EU and Japan wanted Russian oil and gas, then they would find a way to do it. It isn't difficult or even complicated. For Japan, without Russian oil or gas, it isn't a big deal. For EU, many countries would be in a total mess without Russian oil and gas.