Ukrainian War Developments
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asif iqbal
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you need to be in military to understand war progress ? What
4 objectives here to take a city
you need to reach a city
You encircle
You take
You hold
4 weeks on
Russia cannot reach Odessa
After encircled Mariupol they did not take it
They couldn’t encircle Kiev
And even after taking Kharkiv they lost
i do not know why West was so afraid of Russians Military without nukes
And the forces engaged was more or less equal...with more on Ukrainian side and they had the chance to make fortifications, mines fields, etc. Russia was optimistic with the troop they had at the start. Still the Chechen war spanned 10 years or so.
Ukraine's "supporters" should stop discounting Ukrainian losses to zero and hyping up Russian ones. A Russian soldier could chip his toenail and there'd be wall-to-wall media coverage about it, meanwhile Ukraine's logistics are being deleted with impunity and no one says a peep. One Russian ship's worth of supplies was lost - how much more has Ukraine lost? Ukraine's resources aren't infinite an they're being massively attrited.
Yawn, Russia weak, Ukraine stronk!
Such loses are strategically irrelevant. What matters is the end result. So far Russia doing fine in that aspect
The significance of Izium is all about location, location, location, to echo the real estate industry. Seizing it means further isolating the Ukrainian troops in the Donbas from those further up north around Kharkiv. It means more stable supply and communication lines for the Russians. Most importantly, it opens the way for a broader push across the eastern front. The Russians can now go to Slavyansk or Kramatorsk or they can even try for a bigger encirclement by heading west (which I don't think they should since they don't have the troops to pull it off). Capturing Izium was an important objective for the Russians, but we should stress that not much will come from it unless they support the eastern front with more troops.
@asif iqbal In terms of military tactic, I take my cue from MAO “Keep men, lose land, land can be retaken. Keep land lose men you lost both", without an effective Army those cities are easy picking.
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Fine isn’t the word I would use here.
How do you define towns and cities? The Russians have taken Kherson, Melitopol, Berdyansk, Volnovakha, to name just a few examples. Are those towns or cities in your eyes?
The fundamental problem here is that the Russians botched the initial phase of the campaign and are now struggling to recover. They vastly underestimated the Ukrainians based on Putin's delusions about how they're all "one people" and flawed intelligence assessments saying this campaign was going to be just like 2014. Now the Russian army is in the middle of a full-blown conventional war that it simply wasn't prepared to fight. On the plus side for the Russians, it seems like they finally *get it*...by which I mean they have settled on the strategic plan they should have had in the beginning: seize Donbas, establish a land bridge to Crimea, cripple the Ukrainian military. I doubt that capturing Kiev and Odesa are part of the plan anymore. They gave up on those objectives a long time ago, and they were smart to do so.
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