And which ones are genocides because the find icon indicates 3 of them being Japanese against Chinese.
Ukrainian War Developments
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Actually, poles and Ukraine have a history of mutual hatred, with long list of pogroms and lethal ethnic cleansing against each other in territory that both occupied. Their mutural hatred runs every bit as deep as their respective hatred of the Russians. In fact, a good deal of the antagonism towards the Russians comes from the fact that Russians were perceived to be the face of communist oppression. All of polish hatred for the Ukrainians comes from the fact that Ukrainians were perceived to be the face of Ukrainians.
This kind of ukraian-polish ethnic cleansing last manifested itself in strength under Stefan Bandera’s somewhat unruly Ukrainian puppet regime during Nazi occupation. Unruly because Stefan Bandera didn’t alway do what the Germans wanted. So the Gestapo incarcerated him. Remarkably from inside Sachsenhausen concentration camp he still managed to issue more instructions to his followers concerning the killing and driving out of poles from Ukrainian lands. The genocide of poles perpetrated by the Ukrainian under German rule in every respect matched the genocide of Jews also perpetrated by the Ukrainians under German rule, as well as the genocide of Jews prepetrated by the Nazis themselves.
After WWII, Stefan Bandera set up shop in west Germany, because he was considered a valuable anti-communism asset, until he was assassinated by the KGB.
Today Stefan Bandera is widely considered a great national hero in Ukraine. One might imagine how the poles see this to be similar to how the Jews might see a people amongst whom Hitler is still regarded as a national hero.
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The Russians have all but taken Mariupol now. There's much video and photographic evidence, and admissions by the Ukrainians that the Sea of Azov access has been lost "temporarily", that it cannot be relieved, as well as the likes of General Petraeus saying (an inadvertent admission of its loss) that Mariupol has not fallen and that the Ukrainians have run out of everything except heart and that they continue to fight.
There's a video posted today by Patrick Lancaster that shows him travelling deep into Mariupol that is under Russian control. He is was the first person on the ground to cover the aftermath of the battle Volnokakha in the English language in depth.
Absolute revulsion for Stefan Bandera: That is probably the only thing that Poland and Russia can agree on...
Original post was about installing puppet regimes, not outright annexation. You’ve done that on every inhabited continent.
If we’re talking annexation, then Guam, Samoa, Hawaii come to mind.
You should really study more of your disgraceful and blood soaked history first, before talking out of your ass.
I think his lack of political experience is being exposed. The Russians point blank refuse to meet him until he agrees to a number of key demands, and the Americans don't want to fight WW3 for him. Yet he keeps making these demands from both sides.
I don't see a situation where he doesn't come out of this the most hated man in Ukraine.
That guy must stop for Ukrainians sake but he will not. A magnificient villa is waiting for him somewhere when he will leave Germany, sorry Poland, oh no my bad, ehum, i don't know, someone does ?
He don't have anything left to negociate beside keeping North west and in an incredible longshot all west off Dnieper if he can bow his head up his **s on live TV.
FFS ban this guy please for off topic conversation, racism, and false accusation of genocide.
Also did the same derailing on a flagship thread (J-20).
At least SleepyStudent was slightly more of an intellectual challenge and somehow slightly less destructive to threads.
Mods, please.
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