Ukrainian War Developments

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Abominable

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it's the 100$ toilet paper saga all over again. The MIC is selling overpriced Stingers and Javs to the US military to be given to the Ukr,
I think it's much worse, at least with the $100 toilet paper and $20,000 coffee cups you get something physical out of it.

This will be social media campaigns, paying retired generals & think tanks for "analysis", bribing officials for votes in the UNGA, funding of NGOs to spread "democracy" (most with board members who are politicians or their family members). None of which will make a difference in the real world.

Even still, $13 billion is a lot of money for what is internationally a minor country. They produce wheat and have a few good boxers, but that's it. I'm assuming that doesn't include the amount that's already been spent. Ukraine doesn't really produce anything of high value and it isn't strategically THAT important. 30 years ago it wasn't even a country.

They probably could just bribe Putin with half of that and get him to withdraw. Or just given it to the Ukrainians to agree to whatever change domestic laws the Russians were unhappy about.
 

james smith esq

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A while back I heard a story by a US sniper in an interview about Afghanistan. He said he had .50 Barret rifle and was taking shots at a group of Taliban fighters at long distance. Unlike in the movies, it's not a "1 shot 1 kill" situation. He kept firing at them and missing. But his targets knew that they were being engaged by a sniper, since they could hear the crack of his bullets going past them.

But the sniper noticed something really weird. His targets wouldn't run. There wasn't much cover around, but he still expected them to start running, and yet they wouldn't. After a few misses and adjustments, one of the shots hit. It literally tore the guy to pieces. The rest of the fighters looked at his remains, and then started walking again, as if nothing happened.

The sniper said this was the day he finally understood what the US was up against. And this is also why the average American/British volunteers can't hack it in Ukraine, when they're the underdogs.
“In the movies”, and in many sniper videos and documentaries, sniper shots are most often depicted as, or recounted as having been, frontal, head on, shots; this makes for good entertainment value. Good luck if that presents itself to you in combat! The reality is that a profile shot, particularly if moving, is a whole different story, whether sniper, marksman, or rifleman!
 

james smith esq

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I think it's much worse, at least with the $100 toilet paper and $20,000 coffee cups you get something physical out of it.

This will be social media campaigns, paying retired generals & think tanks for "analysis", bribing officials for votes in the UNGA, funding of NGOs to spread "democracy" (most with board members who are politicians or their family members). None of which will make a difference in the real world.

Even still, $13 billion is a lot of money for what is internationally a minor country. They produce wheat and have a few good boxers, but that's it. I'm assuming that doesn't include the amount that's already been spent. Ukraine doesn't really produce anything of high value and it isn't strategically THAT important. 30 years ago it wasn't even a country.

They probably could just bribe Putin with half of that and get him to withdraw. Or just given it to the Ukrainians to agree to whatever change domestic laws the Russians were unhappy about.
Can’t remember where, but I just read that Ukraine actually does provide the world-market with several critical strategic materials and is, in fact, the provider of >90% of, at least, one of these.
 

FriedButter

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They are not using the Yuan. They just agree to pay the Russians with an amount of rupees determined by rupee/yuan exchange rate.

At this moment the rupee is tanking almost as fast as the ruble, so the Russians would insist on a mechanism to set a value for what they would receive in payment that won’t sharply depreciate with the rupee. Preferably what they got paid by the Indians should retain a relatively steady international purchase power irrespective of fluctuation in value of the currency used. Previously payment in dollar mitigate this currency risk. Now yuan is being used in the same role, to make sure what Indians agreed to pay the Russians today is still going to be worth about the same amount tomorrow.
I never realize how much the Rupee has devalued against the dollar over the years lol
 

ohan_qwe

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They are not using the Yuan. They just agree to pay the Russians with an amount of rupees determined by rupee/yuan exchange rate.

At this moment the rupee is tanking almost as fast as the ruble, so the Russians would insist on a mechanism to set a value for what they would receive in payment that won’t sharply depreciate with the rupee. Preferably what they got paid by the Indians should retain a relatively steady international purchase power irrespective of fluctuation in value of the currency used. Previously payment in dollar mitigate this currency risk. Now yuan is being used in the same role, to make sure what Indians agreed to pay the Russians today is still going to be worth about the same amount tomorrow.
If it's just a exchange rate why don't they just keep using dollar/euro?
 

sferrin

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it's the 100$ toilet paper saga all over again. The MIC is selling overpriced Stingers and Javs to the US military to be given to the Ukr,
Having insight into these kinds of claims that get the monkeys rattling their cages (that's what these stories are supposed to do after all), at best it's a case of poorly written requirements. More often though it's just an idiotic "journalist" spouting off about things of which they are clueless.
 
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