Economically, the Russians have already hit rock bottom and is on the mend. However weak its economic power, Russia is a significant military power and will be for decades to come.Here what I think. I dont want to write a very long post so I will just write some oversimplified opinions on each power's national comprehensive power and then write some of my thoughts
- Russia: extrenely large relative (if not absolute) decline.
- EU relative decline on the global stage but increasingly dominating in a regional scale
- US relative decline on the global stage but it is still the hegemon and has quite a lot of "savings" accumulated.
- China: meteoric rise in the global stage.
The West has managed to draw Ukraine closer to it due to various reasons. Ofc the big one is orange revolution and the CIA but the birth of all problems stem from Russia's weak economy, lack of reforms and people not liking the "Russian system" (corruption)
It all boils down to finding a random Ukrainian and asking him:
"20 years in the future, what system would you like your country to follow, the EU/West or the Russian system?" The majority of them would say "EU/West"
What Putin is facing now is that as more time passes, Ukraine will inevitably get closer to EU and like it even more. So in my opinion, Putin has seen this and has decided to end this matter now that he has time and a window of opportunity to do so (high inflation in the west)
He has accepted/took a step back that Ukraine won't be close to Russia but on the other hand, he won't simply surrender Ukraine to the West. As such he wants Ukraine to not join NATO (and probably EU). A Finland-style solution would be a good compromise for Ukraine, meaning that it would become neutral.
As for the US, I have written before (last year) that it would be ideal if it could knock out Russia by collective western sanctions to it and "only" having to sacrifice a single disposable pawn, Ukraine and increased inflation for one or two years.
On the other hand, US fears inflation so it depends on how they balance these issues. IMO even with inflation fears, this is a precious window of opportunity where the US can economically delete Russia from its future rivalry with China
Honestly, I think that this opportunity is far too important for the US Deep state to ignore. This could help them in the long run on the rivalry with China. This is why I think that US would love to have Russia attack Ukraine. It would finally be able to rope in EU to impose crippling (harsher than the Crimea sanctions) sanctions on Russia
In the end, I hope can Putin can be smart on this and have a proper game plan. The whole world knows that an actual invasion would be terrible for Russia's economy so it is very possible (if not certain) that Putin is just trying to show that he is ready to invade in order to extract concessions from the West
Anyway, these are my short thoughts. I am sure that with these being so short, people can find plenty of loopholes and problematic points but please keep in mind that I am talking from an oversimplified long term strategic point of view
Whatever sanctions the U.S. can place on Russia, it would be impossible to topple the current Russian government as long as both Putin is in charge and China is there to bolster their economy. Russia will be able to source most daily merchandise that they need from China. They will still obtain enough revenue from selling weapons/natural resources to China. The idea of knocking out Russia when Putin and China are there is just a fantasy.
Ukraine, like Taiwan, had already seen its opinion shifted to the West, but as war clouds loomed, but no fighting, Ukraine will be facing economic disaster. No foreign capital will invest in Ukraine. All the young people are leaving for other lands, In a couple of decades, Ukraine will be shell of its former selves. However, it will not be able to determine its own fate, just as Taiwan will not be able to determine its own fate. It is decided by Russia and the U.S., to a much less extend, Europe and China, whatever the opinions of its population. Over time, if the economy of Ukraine does not get better, we may actually see the opinion of its population shift away from the U.S.
If Putin can hold out for a decade, the power shift to China plus the internal strife inside the U.S. will mean that the U.S. will increasingly be less likely to pick fights in that region.
I agree that there is benefit for the U.S. if a fight were to occur between Russia and Ukraine, but it is not about toppling Russia. The U.S. has found it increasingly difficult to challenge China and needs the Western Europeans to fall in line. A fight between Ukraine and Russia is just the thing to enforce such loyalties. However, we are powerless to provide any economic incentive to the Western Europeans, so we can only use the stick. In the longer run, this is unsustainable. After the pain of economic losses, Europe will eventually have to follow its own interests and away from the U.S. because we can only force Europe to take economic pain to stay with us on trumped up security issues. Putin is also playing well with his hand by scaring the heck out of the Ukrainian government so his does not have to actually go to war.
Actually, it seems Biden does not really want to go to war. If he did, he would sanction the heck out of the Russians. Once the sanctions are applied, there will be no more downside to the Russian invasion and the Russians might invade. Instead, he threaten to use the sanctions.