Ukrainian War Developments

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Abominable

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Wow, this was a massive explosion. No wonder Legionaires are getting fuck all as it is if every ammo depot keeps getting targeted, which seems more relevant to who is winning or lossing that a few T-72's getting picked off here and there.

This conflict is the weirdest one I've experienced in my entire life. Since day one we've been seeing Russians completely pummel entire bases, blocks of cities and whole units of Ukrainian soldiers being wiped out. Everything I'm seeing from Ukrainian sources looks like a total breakdown of military command and control, and anarchy on the streets.

The Ukrainians on the other hand post memes of farmers towing broken tanks, a few deserting Russian soldiers, and one or two helicopters shot down. Unsubstantiated Ukrainian rumours about Russians generals being killed, Putin firing generals get amplified as fact. People are straight up making up lies, like the idea that Russia is reducing demands in peace negotiations when the Ukrainians have gone on record saying the Russians have increased their demands. All of this becomes a self propagating echo chamber, and now 99% of the western world is convinced that Ukraine is somehow winning this war.

There's literally no coverage of anything coming from the Russian side. There's no sanity check from any western politician or major media outlet. They all seem to be adding fuel to the fire.

This is WW2 level propaganda and censorship, except the home propaganda is being supercharged by the internet age.
 

Weaasel

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RUSSIAN ATTACK ON
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A cruel but underreported reality of the Ukrainian war has been the unpreparedness of the Western veterans and serving soldiers fighting in Ukraine


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One Mercian Regiment veteran of the Iraq and Afghanistan wars, dubbed a “British Lion” by one tabloid, travelled to Ukraine to fight the Russian military, but is now back in Kidderminster after narrowly surviving one battle with Putin’s forces. He explained:

“Iraq and Afghanistan was totally different. The Russians are a conventional modern army…I’ve never experienced firepower like that, I don’t think anyone of this generation ever has.” - JASON HAIGH

ISAF troops’ experience of heavy explosives in Afghanistan was mostly confined to taking a fatal step on a booby-trap or when friendly forces in the air miscalculated their strafing runs.

This experience has left Britons and other Western veterans of the recent failed Middle Eastern campaigns [SYRIA !?] ill-equipped for war in Ukraine. Nothing in the Middle East campaigns compares to the overwhelming might of a conventional army replete with missiles, jets...

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French foreign fighter yesterday when the foreign camp at
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got obliterated literally cries as he flees the camp into safety. He says his friends are killed in the strike and someone is leaking information about the base.

"Here, the Yavoriv base has just been bombed, we're leaving".

LOL, at least he took one good decision.


There is enough anecdotal evidence to suggest the foreign legion took a massive hit. The dishonest Western media is totally mum about this. Sticking to the script that only Ukrainians were killed.

Yes, over 200 dead. One Brazilian confirmed, as well as, one mercenary that fled to Poland and made statement to Spanish TV.


A SPANISH TV IN POLAND - YAVORIV ATTACK

We have spoken in @A3Noticias with a foreign recruit from Barcelona who has survived the Russian bombing of the Ukrainian military base in Yavoriv and who had been receiving military training for two weeks to fight in the war #UkraineWar


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training center bombed. There it is on the Gdansk-Constance (POL-GER) axis. NATO leaders will deny the presence of Western military instructors. Map by
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This is what the French guy is saying:

There... The base has just been destroyed, we're going... I have buddies who are dead... We are withdrawing, we're getting out... The based has been destroyed... I need to take two minutes [to get himself together]... The base has been destroyed. And there's been a bombardment over there also, just now... There... There are people who say that it isn't true... Shit... ***I couldn't make out the last sentence that he said.***
 

pmc

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Ukraine still having the majority of their TB2's

The official also noted that Ukraine is using drones sent by Turkey “effectively” and that it still has “a significant majority of their inventory left".


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There are rumors that the US is interested to buy TB2's to send them to Ukraine.
Ukranian cannot use TB-2 effectively. hardly single video that is too dark and that initial phase. i think they running out of drones. and further supply not assured. infact after Israel. German will tighten the screws on Turkey to follow the sanctions. There is no middle ground as far economics are concerned. French will not tolerate its losses if Germany cannot force Turkey for sanctions.
Turkish lira is approaching 15 to a dollar.

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LawLeadsToPeace

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That thread is a hoot. Also if his numbers are true, the Russians are doing the Ukrainians a solid, publicity wise, by not letting their soldiers go around recording with their cellphones.

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https://www.reddit.com/r/volunteersForUkraine/comments/tdhfxk/_/i0k9mt0
After reading many of the threads, all I can say is that they are finally reaching the depression stage:
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This conflict is the weirdest one I've experienced in my entire life. Since day one we've been seeing Russians completely pummel entire bases, blocks of cities and whole units of Ukrainian soldiers being wiped out. Everything I'm seeing from Ukrainian sources looks like a total breakdown of military command and control, and anarchy on the streets.

The Ukrainians on the other hand post memes of farmers towing broken tanks, a few deserting Russian soldiers, and one or two helicopters shot down. Unsubstantiated Ukrainian rumours about Russians generals being killed, Putin firing generals get amplified as fact. People are straight up making up lies, like the idea that Russia is reducing demands in peace negotiations when the Ukrainians have gone on record saying the Russians have increased their demands. All of this becomes a self propagating echo chamber, and now 99% of the western world is convinced that Ukraine is somehow winning this war.

There's literally no coverage of anything coming from the Russian side. There's no sanity check from any western politician or major media outlet. They all seem to be adding fuel to the fire.

This is WW2 level propaganda and censorship, except the home propaganda is being supercharged by the internet age.
Yep. This entire thing just proved to me once again that no matter how much education people receive, they are easily manipulated into believing what the elites want and, most importantly, what THEY want to see.
 

56860

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https://www.reddit.com/r/volunteersForUkraine/comments/tdnmlj
Enlightening thread. This is what happens when Americans used to fighting cave-dwelling goat herders in sandals while holding complete air and tech superiority fight a modernized army. The incessant and overwhelming pro-Ukrainian propaganda definitely didn't help either. Some absolute gems:

War is no joke,this ain't no Afghanistan or Iraq where you fight some poorly equipped jihadis , Russians they got pretty decent jets and missiles
Yeah man, I'll admit I was a little naive myself even having seen some combat previously. I did not expect to be attacked by jets while sleeping in a barracks room on a training base 10 miles from Poland
Seen a post from an infantryman awhile back saying it's hell on earth. It's definitely a different theater out there than what we experienced.
Yeah man I had been mortared before and thought that was pretty gnarly because it's out of your control ya know, but being absolutely defenseless and in the open with three aircraft just shitting all over you with such heavy ordinance was a whole new level of helplessness
Explain why you didn't think you'd get attacked by jets after signing up to fight against Russia and knowing the state of the Ukrainian air force. I simply cannot fathom how you didn't expect something like this to happen.

I just wonder how many Americans will die to Russian missiles in the following days.
 

plawolf

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The more I see the current phase of the war, the more I’m leaning towards the view that Putin actually doesn’t want a quick resolution to the war any more. Instead I think he is content to lock the war in stalemate and just bleed the Ukrainians and Europeans until they have nothing left to bleed.

I think initially he might have hoped for a Crimea 2.0 bloodless takeover with people welcoming his forces with open arms. But the ferocity of the Ukrainian defence has shattered those illusions and also shown him a taste of what occupation might be like. With a determined and well-funded and supplied insurgency, it will be a nightmare for him. So rather than aim for a quick conventional victory and death by a thousand cuts occupation, I think he has decided it’s better to prolong the war and bleed Ukraine dry of both manpower and the willpower to fight and resist before he finally ends the conventional military campaign.

He will have his forces probe and pull back, probe and pull back. Each time he looses some of his but kill far more on the other side.

Keep this up for a few weeks/months and the Ukrainians will literally run out of bodies to throw at the Russians, and that’s when they will finally make a bit push into Kyiv to end it.

By that point the EU will also be economically and militarily drained and the Ukrainian’s will would have been crushed so any insurgency will just fizzle out.
 

foxmulder

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This is tragicomic to watch for me. If it goes like this Ukraine will end. Funny thing is they tricked themselves to it. They become a pawn and keep provoking their nuclear military super power neighbor to attack them. It is crazy. I cannot believe majority of the Ukraine is supporting this. I bet if there was an election now Zelensky would get 35% instead 70% he got.

World lost its mind. EU supporting these sanctions (to this extend) and sending weapons (Germany is spending 100billion euro to weapons!!@!@!!) is crazy too. What benefit they are getting? Higher prices of everything, less secure Europe, immigrants.. well, this time they are blond maybe that was attractive. I have no idea what EU was thinking.

What is US getting..?.. double the energy prices, almost certain double digit inflation? The cancel culture reached a new peak.. Now international relations are done based on cancel culture.. herd mentality. CRAZY.

what is Russia getting, 25% decrease in economy for years to come? Thousands of dead soldiers. Long term east Ukraine?

Seriously who benefits from this war? NO ONE!
 
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