Ukrainian War Developments

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BlackWindMnt

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Russia said that it didn't ask for military assistance from China. China is also saying the US is maliciously spreading fake news.

Can people stop diving into clear propaganda as if it's true just because some US media wrote about it? Western media doesn't even have a good track-record of being factual.
A "US official" has informed the x press...

Is always a dead give away.
 

stoss860420

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Based on some quick Google searches, the bullpups (also known as Malyuk) are in service among Ukranian special operations forces. So those guys must be a Ukranian spec ops team harrassing the Russians.

For the rifle itself, it is basically an AK74 that was converted into a bullpup and received some Tavor-style features. It looks really awkward to use though. The magazine position is weird, so the reload movement must feel awkward.
Definitely would take some training and drill execution to get that movement to turn into muscle memory. These guys had a very modern and well equipped kits.

Small infantry teams equipped with mortars is the way to go for Ukrainian resistance.

Given that they are provided with targeting data by NATO they can cause a headache to Russian units. Its too easy for such small teams to hide and make quick hit and run attacks
As @LawLeadsToPeace added that we know that this weapon was reserved for the high tier soldiers. Very easily could be their Spec Ops forces using the targeting data provided by NATO and US. This video could very well be the merit to your statement.

The insurgency in Iraq was doing this. I wonder if the Russians have the same munitions radar we had to pinpoint the position of where the indirect fire was coming from to return fire to that location.
 

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Russia said that it didn't ask for military assistance from China. China is also saying the US is maliciously spreading fake news.

Can people stop diving into clear propaganda as if it's true just because some US media wrote about it? Western media doesn't even have a good track-record of being factual.

A "US official" has informed the x press...

Is always a dead give away.

We have a couple of users here who are, for some reason, extremely emotionally attached to this issue and will use any shred of news to show that Russia is going to fall the next day. I guess those users have close ties to Ukraine via friends or family. I don't blame them for jumping on any news that gives them hope, even if it is a lie.
 

Atomicfrog

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All this Russia asking China for arms media storm seems like it’s a load of BS.

Any new complex systems will take weeks or even months just for the Russians to be trained on them. And as western Javelin spam showed, even sending in comparative simple systems is going to be massively wasteful and very likely ineffective, not to mention easily detected.

As such, there is minimal chance China can transfer weapons in secret and keep it secret. As such, without official Chinese government announcements, it’s almost certainly BS nonsense.

Similarly, it will take months or even years to set up production of Russian weapons in China before the first batches can reach the frontline.

Timeframe wise, it doesn’t make much sense.

Maybe China can transfer back some of the Russian made PGMs it purchased. But to be frank, i don’t think China has much of it left by now since the bulk of those stocks would have been purchased with the first batches of MKKs and would have reach the end of their useful lives long before now. With the PLA being notoriously cost efficient, they would have been used up in training before expiring, and any safety stocks held and expired would have been disposed off shortly after expiring anyways.

The only things that might be supplied in short time and have significant battlefield impact would be combat optics and night vision. We are already seeming Holosun optics showing up in some pictures, so it’s one thing I’m keeping an eye on. But such optics are commercially available so even if they start showing up en mass, it’s hardly going to be proof positive of anything other than maybe somebody making big AliExpress orders. Indeed, the Ukrainians have been buying Holosuns en mass themselves, so the Russians could just be using battlefield pick ups themselves.
Maybe just rations for refugee and expandables for field hospitals... sure that Russian will buy stuff from China, they do it all years long like all other nations. Ukraine are probably buying too.
Apparently it was a punitive strike against the downtown of the city

NSFW
With viccinity of combat, civilians will be hurt. Just a defect could cause a rocket to steer away from target anyway.
 

Abominable

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I think the western rumours of Russia asking for Chinese aid are a way out for them to stop providing military hardware to Ukraine.

At this point anything they're sending in is ending up straight into the hands of the Russians. They aren't getting paid for any of this, and must be running dangerously low on some platforms. It makes more sense to send them to Poland or the Baltics now, that way not only will they be going to regular army units instead of civilian militia, they can also get paid for it.

Russia threatening to target western supplies in the Ukraine could lead to a bigger humanitarian disaster, as many are using civilian vehicles to do so.

I think by first claiming China is about to send in military hardware they then announce an agreement with China that neither side will provide military aid to either country.
 

sheogorath

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Maybe just rations for refugee and expandables for field hospitals... sure that Russian will buy stuff from China, they do it all years long like all other nations. Ukraine are probably buying too.

With viccinity of combat, civilians will be hurt. Just a defect could cause a rocket to steer away from target anyway.
I wouldn't put it past the Ukrainians to deliberately aim for the city, they have doing so for the last 8 years, and now they have the support of the western media so nothing will happen to them.
 

Phead128

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China getting ready to stab Russia in the back:

The article provides no compelling reason to cut Putin off except "Don't have US sanctions imposed on China" which I somewhat understand BUT the author seems to forget how China routinely trades with sanctioned states like Iran and North Korea, and avoid retailiatory US sanctions. There are significant loopholes to Western sanctions on Russia that China can exploit to prevent total economic collapse.

The article naively suggest China's reputation is harmed by neutrality. Yes, maybe amongst Western imperialist nations, but neutrality is the correct position to take, since both sides are engaged in different degrees of imperialism if we want to objective, fair, and impartial. Both sides are imperialistic, so China should remain neutral, but lean towards Russia since it's the weaker imperialist aligned with China's interests.

It's also supremely naive to thing US will drop it's anti-China mentality if it joins in anti-Russian crusade. Yes, Russia's actions is imperialistic, but that's not China's problem to fix, the mess was created by Western countries. China isn't obligated to toe Western line to fix the mess West created and help kill it's strategic partner out of some faux outrage on "muh internation law!!" which US routinely ignores.
 
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