Miragedriver
Brigadier
The new reportage from KP.ru: Excursion - Fear and hatred in Debaltseve:
Back to bottling my Grenache
Back to bottling my Grenache
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Miragedriver
Brigadier
Battle footage of Debaltsevo:
Back to bottling my Grenache
Back to bottling my Grenache
It shows an article in a Dutch newspaper written by Pieter Waterdrinker. In Thursday's paper this journalist tells how he fled from his hotel in Slovjansk because he was warned by the hotel that he was in danger because of this translation:
do 19 feb 2015, 05:30
Propaganda
Pieter Waterdrinker
Pieter Waterdrinker Foto: TLG
Halsoverkop moest ik het oorlogsgebied ’s nachts verlaten. Ik treed niet in details. Het had te maken met een schrijnend fenomeen waarmee steeds meer collega’s te maken hebben: de inzet van hun verslagen (in woord, beeld en geluid) in het propagandaoffensief waarmee elke oorlog gepaard gaat.
Op zich geen nieuw verschijnsel. Maar uitingen in de sociale media kunnen vandaag de dag voor de verslaggever in het veld gevaarlijker zijn dan granaatscherven of kogels.
Op een ochtend kwam een receptioniste van een hotel in Slovjansk op mij af en zei dat ik beter kon vertrekken. Enigszins naïef als ik ben – en zelfs in tijden van oorlog gelovend in het goede van de mens – reisde ik niettemin opnieuw richting front.
Laat in de avond, terug in Slovjansk, meldde de vrouw me opnieuw: u moet nu vertrekken, snel! Ze zijn hier voor u langs geweest. Aan de blik in haar vermoeide Tataarse ogen zag ik dat het menens was.
Haastig verdween ik met mijn koffertje in de modderzwarte Oekraïense nacht. Van de ene ingehuurde auto overstappend in de andere. Door een archipel van wegblokkades die ‘s nachts – dat weet een kind – door de combinatie kalasjnikov/dronken soldaat op hun riskantst zijn.
Inmiddels begreep ik via Twitter wat er aan de hand was. Een website van de DNR ( de Volksrepubliek Donetsk) had van mij een stuk uit deze krant in het Russisch vertaald met zekere belastende details over het Oekraïense leger. En ik zat ongelukkigerwijze aan de Oekraïense kant van het front.
Velen begrijpen niet dat je als correspondent simpelweg verslag doet. En dat de uitingen en visies van hen die je aan het woord laat niet de jouwe zijn. Maar net als de jihad, heeft de Oekraïense oorlog zich ook genesteld in de polders.
Van de haat- en dreigmails die ik krijg, was deze van ene mevrouw Irina R. weer zeer fraai: „Ik woon in Nederland, hou op met je gore leugens! Hoeveel betaalt Poetin jou? Dat je mag branden in de hel!” Na dertien uur kwam ik uiteindelijk aan in Kiev.
This is definitely not a low level flunky in Kiev.
Ukrainian deputy foreign minister claimed Kiev was preparing for a "full-scale" war and urged Canada to send lethal assistance to the country in a radio interview.
Ukrainian Deputy Foreign Minister Vadym Prystaiko said in an interview with Canadian radio that Kiev was getting ready for a full-scale war.
"We don't want to scare everybody, but we are preparing for full-scale war," Prystaiko claimed.
He also called on Canada to send lethal arms to Ukraine adding that the country has been training Kiev forces during the last ten years.
On February 12, the leaders of Russia, Ukraine, Germany and France hammered out a deal on the Ukrainian reconciliation. The supply of lethal aid run counter to the Minsk agreements on Ukrainian reconciliation, signed in Minsk, the capital of Belarus, on February 12. The agreements stipulate a ceasefire between Kiev forces and independence supporters in southeastern Ukraine.
Deputy foreign minister pointed out that Ukraine has lost its ties with Russia, which used to be accounted for a third of the country’s exports.
"Don't forget that the infrastructure in Donetsk is already devastated. We've lost at least 20 per cent of the industrial [output] of Ukraine. We've had to close the market with Russia, which is a third of our exports and imports. It's painful," he said.
Prystaiko commented on the situation in Debaltseve saying that "the biggest hub we ever had in the railroad is completely destroyed and devastated."
The town of Debaltseve, a key transport hub located between the two Ukrainian breakaway regions of Donetsk and Luhansk, has been highly contested lately by independence militia and government troops, even after the ceasefire came into effect at the end of last week.
Ukrainian deputy foreign minister claimed Kiev was preparing for a "full-scale" war and urged Canada to send lethal assistance to the country in a radio interview.
Ukrainian Deputy Foreign Minister Vadym Prystaiko said in an interview with Canadian radio that Kiev was getting ready for a full-scale war.
"We don't want to scare everybody, but we are preparing for full-scale war," Prystaiko claimed.
He also called on Canada to send lethal arms to Ukraine adding that the country has been training Kiev forces during the last ten years.
On February 12, the leaders of Russia, Ukraine, Germany and France hammered out a deal on the Ukrainian reconciliation. The supply of lethal aid run counter to the Minsk agreements on Ukrainian reconciliation, signed in Minsk, the capital of Belarus, on February 12. The agreements stipulate a ceasefire between Kiev forces and independence supporters in southeastern Ukraine.
Deputy foreign minister pointed out that Ukraine has lost its ties with Russia, which used to be accounted for a third of the country’s exports.
"Don't forget that the infrastructure in Donetsk is already devastated. We've lost at least 20 per cent of the industrial [output] of Ukraine. We've had to close the market with Russia, which is a third of our exports and imports. It's painful," he said.
Prystaiko commented on the situation in Debaltseve saying that "the biggest hub we ever had in the railroad is completely destroyed and devastated."
The town of Debaltseve, a key transport hub located between the two Ukrainian breakaway regions of Donetsk and Luhansk, has been highly contested lately by independence militia and government troops, even after the ceasefire came into effect at the end of last week.
I think to many people. the people of Donbass are Russians illegally occupying Ukraine land and so needs to be push back out.
Hence, the oft refrains that it is Russian soldiers they are fighting against.
There is a word that's often associated with war crimes and crimes against humanity and that's "ethnic cleansing".
Hence, the oft refrains that it is Russian soldiers they are fighting against.
There is a word that's often associated with war crimes and crimes against humanity and that's "ethnic cleansing".