Type 95 Assault Rifle II
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Re: Type 95 assault rifle
But this Type 95G has been rather dissapointing. There doesn't look like to have been major redesign of any sort...
China had better hurry up with developing small arms. The West (and even australia and south korea) are coming up with 21st century rifles with airburst rounds and electronic fire control systems...
I'm pretty sure I've seen Type 95's with American style M203 grenade launchers as well...
But this Type 95G has been rather dissapointing. There doesn't look like to have been major redesign of any sort...
China had better hurry up with developing small arms. The West (and even australia and south korea) are coming up with 21st century rifles with airburst rounds and electronic fire control systems...
plawolf
Lieutenant General
Re: Type 95 assault rifle
Or you can look at it from the pov that the minimal changes underlines the strength of the original design.
Besides, this is likely only to be a mod version instead of being a new design, just like there have been many 'blocks' of M16 just for example.
The next 'gen' firearms sounds like a bit of a logistical and operational nightmare waiting to happen with all the new delicate eletronic elements. Even the Americans have greatly scaled back the ambition of their designs, and the Scar is pretty much evolutionary instead of revolutionary.
For the PLA, reliability and durability are some of its highest design requirements, and it is claimed the Type95 is as reliable and durable as the AK47. I do not expect that requirement to slip in their next gen weapons unless something so revolitionary is developed that China must field in order to remain competative. But we are talking about the kind of leap from bolt action to automatic here.
Or you can look at it from the pov that the minimal changes underlines the strength of the original design.
Besides, this is likely only to be a mod version instead of being a new design, just like there have been many 'blocks' of M16 just for example.
The next 'gen' firearms sounds like a bit of a logistical and operational nightmare waiting to happen with all the new delicate eletronic elements. Even the Americans have greatly scaled back the ambition of their designs, and the Scar is pretty much evolutionary instead of revolutionary.
For the PLA, reliability and durability are some of its highest design requirements, and it is claimed the Type95 is as reliable and durable as the AK47. I do not expect that requirement to slip in their next gen weapons unless something so revolitionary is developed that China must field in order to remain competative. But we are talking about the kind of leap from bolt action to automatic here.
Re: Type 95 assault rifle
I get nightmares from chinese soldiers getting nailed by foreign troops armed with airburst rounds and electric targeting systems in a potential future firefight (ok I don't, but the situation seems a frighteningly realistic situation for some reason)...
True all good points -- I do think that the PLA should at least experiment in next gen rifles (and net centric warfare too for that matter); just so they're not left too far behind the curve. Maybe distribute these higher tech rifles to special ops or marines -- I do wonder if China even has the technology to build a rifle like the Korean K12 or American OICW.
I get nightmares from chinese soldiers getting nailed by foreign troops armed with airburst rounds and electric targeting systems in a potential future firefight (ok I don't, but the situation seems a frighteningly realistic situation for some reason)...
Re: Type 95 assault rifle
What else do you want done to the rifle? The major problem was the fire selector switch which they resolved. Appears to be extended heavy barrel with altered muzzle flash, maybe due to the more heavier rounds being introduced. Why would China need electronic fire control systems on a mechanical system? Those nations you mentioned are still in early early stages, and most have given up basically. Don't know what your fearing about, airburst rounds kill but so do the existing cased rounds.
What else do you want done to the rifle? The major problem was the fire selector switch which they resolved. Appears to be extended heavy barrel with altered muzzle flash, maybe due to the more heavier rounds being introduced. Why would China need electronic fire control systems on a mechanical system? Those nations you mentioned are still in early early stages, and most have given up basically. Don't know what your fearing about, airburst rounds kill but so do the existing cased rounds.
Re: Type 95 assault rifle
Actually the best rifle is those that is easy to use and maintain and not those fanciful rifles that had heaps of electronic devices control and stuff like that, when in the field under terrible condition, it suddenly don't work. That is also one reason the AK series of rifles are still highly sought after.
Actually the best rifle is those that is easy to use and maintain and not those fanciful rifles that had heaps of electronic devices control and stuff like that, when in the field under terrible condition, it suddenly don't work. That is also one reason the AK series of rifles are still highly sought after.
terrorhunter
Banned Idiot
Re: Type 95 assault rifle
when im fighting a war i want a rifle thats reliable as never screws up on me. i've used rifles with integrated electronics in it and let me tell you once it rains or if you spend a few days on combat training with it they start to screw up. i had non-functional sights for 3 days when i went on an exercise. give me those iron sights with a normal optic scope any day and i'll take it. i'd rather have something thats simple and works than something that looks and sounds fancy but doesnt work most of the time
when im fighting a war i want a rifle thats reliable as never screws up on me. i've used rifles with integrated electronics in it and let me tell you once it rains or if you spend a few days on combat training with it they start to screw up. i had non-functional sights for 3 days when i went on an exercise. give me those iron sights with a normal optic scope any day and i'll take it. i'd rather have something thats simple and works than something that looks and sounds fancy but doesnt work most of the time
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agreed with u guys. I would prefer my old M16S1 rifle anytime as compared to the new SAR21 with her fanciful laser system that required spare battery. I have to carried easily 7 to 10kg of equipment (inclusive of the damned rifle) and I do not want another few grams to add to that.
I couldn't imagine myself carrying the bulk of my equipment and any other new and fanciful rifle with huge number of electronic components stucked to it that is going to weigh like hell, spent my time in the field, force march 24km with full battle order at the end of the day still have to engage my opponents...
Thus I would only want my old rifle - reliable, easily maintained and even a half wit know how to operate, rather than something that will screwed up after a while or extensive usuage or would show all sort of error message when I wanted to use them on field.
agreed with u guys. I would prefer my old M16S1 rifle anytime as compared to the new SAR21 with her fanciful laser system that required spare battery. I have to carried easily 7 to 10kg of equipment (inclusive of the damned rifle) and I do not want another few grams to add to that.
I couldn't imagine myself carrying the bulk of my equipment and any other new and fanciful rifle with huge number of electronic components stucked to it that is going to weigh like hell, spent my time in the field, force march 24km with full battle order at the end of the day still have to engage my opponents...
Thus I would only want my old rifle - reliable, easily maintained and even a half wit know how to operate, rather than something that will screwed up after a while or extensive usuage or would show all sort of error message when I wanted to use them on field.