Type 95 Assault Rifle II

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What advantages and disadvantages does the STANG and Kalashnikov magazine have over? Cause always wondering why the PLA didnt choose the STANG type magazine for its Type 95 rifles but instead kept with the Kalashnikov magazine type? STANG magazines but still using the 5.8x42 rounds.

As US currently buy many foreign rifles to test out and see how effective their are, and also some for themselves. Was wondering does the PLA do that to, as in purchase foreign rifles, pistols to test and out and maybe use themselves. Or for design inspiration or refinement to their own. I know one gun is used for their SWAT force MP5 but thats all I know.

With China Blue Army if they want to simulate enemy in exercise then shouldn't they use enemy weapons such as M-16 and etc...

Would be a wise move to import small batch of many modern day rifles out there to test and evaluate. And their is also no shame in purchasing small arms for themselves to use in Police force etc...but then again they do want to go domestic

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Think about the loading positions. With the current design, the line of the bottom is straight, but if you use a STANAG magazine, you get a "hump" where the loading port is located. Just look at the video, it is difficult. Try shoving a stick into a pipe that barely fits, especially when you do it blind. It is easier to locate the port and reload with the AK style mags than that of STANAGs.

Plus, what's the advantage of a STANAG magazine over that of an AK?

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sumdud said:

Plus, what's the advantage of a STANAG magazine over that of an AK?

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Probably zilch, other than the STANAG is optimized for NATO 5.56. Other than that, as you imply Sumdud, the AK mags are probably far better for most purposes.

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Chengdu J-10 said:

The FAMAS assault rifle weighs around 3.8 kg which is pretty heavey compared to some present assault rifles such as the Type 95 weighs around 3.4 kg empty. Why doesn't the Type 95 LSW variant have a C-mag drum with 100 rounds instead of the ordinary drum with 75 rounds? I mean it has more ammo.

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The Type 95 Assault Rifle (QBZ-95)already have an LSW variant with a drum mag I recommend you to visit . I even find a pic

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TerraN_EmpirE said:

M16A4 is the current generation of Us military M16 and the only difference between it and the M16A2 is the removable carry handle and addition of rails to the hand guard most combat for infantry is under 100 meters but reaching farther is all ways a plus as you never know where the mutant militant is going to pop up from. :rofl:

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very realistic (and very funny) comment you never know where or when those militant gonna pop up, the ak-47 may stink in long range combat I any desing of m16 for long range engagements,
In my U.S. army reserve unit we still using the M16A2, but in cqc I personally prefer the AK-47 cause the penetration power is far better than the M16s, also the reliability of the AK-47 is better even than the lattest M16 desing.

China already tests her 5.8mm rounds against the NATO's 5.56mm and the Russian 5.45mm using the QBZ-95 (a.k.a. Type 95). the chinese relize than the 5.8mm was better than both Russian 5.45mm and NATO 5.56mm in matters of penetration, in acuracy they defeat the Russian 5.45mm but not the NATO's 5.56mm but the at least is nearly as accurate as the NATO's rds. China claim the QBZ-95s are nearly as acurate as the American m16 but they clain to have the better overral performance over the m16, including penetration, firepower, reliability is clouse to than of the AK series, the other only disadvantage may be the bullpup desing very similar of the british SA-80 make the assault riffle kindda hazardous for left handed shooters (thats very common among the bullpup desing)

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australia peace keeping force in east Timor complain that 5.56mm bullet lack penetrating power,instead they urge to retain the 7.62mm FALauto'rifle.
in close urbn house to house fighting a 7.62 mm bullet has advantage over smaller 5.56mm bullet,it can crack concrete block.

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sumdud said:

Think about the loading positions. With the current design, the line of the bottom is straight, but if you use a STANAG magazine, you get a "hump" where the loading port is located. Just look at the video, it is difficult. Try shoving a stick into a pipe that barely fits, especially when you do it blind. It is easier to locate the port and reload with the AK style mags than that of STANAGs.

Plus, what's the advantage of a STANAG magazine over that of an AK?

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Thanx, was always wondering about the two different magazine, and always concluded that neither had advantage over another. Hmm if the STANG magazine are hard for bullpup then L85, FAMAS and etc... bullpup must be differently designed for easier loading then compared to T95.

Only thing that I can think of that the Kalashnikov magazine have over the STANG is probably weight and less material. With STANG you need to add a magazine well and release button all this requires more weight added and material used.

Ive found nothing wrong with T95 that people are always negatively discussing, only thing that I can think of is the lack in left hand shooting ability.

SAR21 even with left handed shooting capability are still taught to fire right handed due to the risk of accident for lefties. But when they are approaching right handed corner they have the option if neccesary to fire from left shoulder without much exposure of the body. The T95 other hand doesnt have this ability. Handy for urban warefare.

Another factor that dual shooting would be useful is if a troop was injured leg that prevented him from moving and had to defend himself. It would be good to shoot from left and right shoulder to defend both sides, instead of shifting your whole body to the right to defend right position.

Currious if PLA have any plans of modifying or refining the T95 rifles to address some minor issues.

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The SA80 was crappy from the start .

Also to note, some of the more modern bullpups, like the Tavor, fill up that space in front of the well (in some way) and allows the magazine to slide onto the slot; The type 95 was designed for AK-mags originally and thus this was neglected for STANAG acceptors.

But the STANAG magazine doesn't have to use a button release: the Masada has a lever release. (Anyone know ow that works? Th catch on STANAG-zines are different.)

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RedMercury said:

AK type rifle was already replaced in the 80s, by the Type-81. Recent pics indicate Type-95 will not be the sole assault rifle. The Type-03 is being issued at least in small numbers.

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the type 81 asault rifle still an AK based rifle they borrow parts from the SVD Dragunov Sniper rifle to improve the acuracy but still an AK desing. Talking about the Type 03 rifle is an Ak based too. The Type 95 (qbz 95) is the bullpup design much like the british Sa80 and as far as the evidence shows the Qbz95 was chosen over the Type03 just chek youtube for some Pla videos and you´ll see the Pla soldiers carrying the Qbz95s

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Rising China said:

Yesterday I was watching the Future Weapons show, and they said that US would gradually phase out all the current assault rifles using 5.56*45mm bullets because these shells didn't have stopping power. Instead, they will phase in Robinson Armanents XCR assault rifle using caliber 6.8*43mm. This type of rifle is the best that they have ever made because of its reliability. The internal design of this rifle is very similar to HK 416 assault rifle by directing all the gasses away from the internal components of the gun. My question is why China went from 7.62 down to 5.8mm while US will go from 5.56 to 6.8mm. Does 6.8 actually have more stopping power than 5.8mm because it has more kinetic energy? Any Ideas?

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you have to take in consideration that have to be a balance between penetration power and accuracy. ussually bigger rounds are more powerful but lacks of accuracy. I think based on your data U.s. is willing to sacrifice a little of accuracy to gain more penetration power when they are changing from 5.56mm to 6.4mm. The case of China is viceversa: they are seeking more accuracy sacrificing penetration power when they change from 7.62mm to 5.8mm. Atleast I see works like that when we talk about asault rifles. Some eceptions like the good old american M14 rifle wish keep a very good semi-auto accuracy using a 7.62mm rds.