the 076 is a 50k tonne LHD with EM catapult(s?) and arresting wires. there is nothing conservative about it. on the contrary it has the most revolutionary design of any modern warship.
Type 076 LHD/LHA discussion
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For some enthusiasts, simply having a budget is being too conservative.
lcloo
Captain
Type 076 is a new navy ship concept and the ONLY kind of amphibious drone assault ship being built in the world. If that is conservative, think how conservative other countries' navies are.
kwaigonegin
Colonel
Huh?!
kwaigonegin
Colonel
If PLAN has a large fixed wing STOVL UAV this would come has a huge surprised to most of us I'd imagined!
You don't call these people enthusiasts.
Another reasoning against the angled deck for the 076 LHD, apart from the fact where the 076 is actually still an LHD, instead of a fully-fledged CV:
Rough illustration made by @horobeyo on Twitter.
Having a ~100 meter EMCAT means that operations of heavier carrier-based aircraft onboard are expected/anticipated.
Subsequently, given the much shorter length of the LHD's flight deck compared to proper CVs - Having an angled deck literally makes no difference to a straight deck in terms on how an aircraft that is landing on the LHD which missed the arresting wires is going to avoid another aircraft that is in the launch position - Simply because, they both cannot.
The launch position of the EMCAT is going to eat into the landing deck in both straight and angled deck configurations either way. So why bother with an angled deck on the 076, when you could just uss a straight deck that can actually save more material and money for having basically similar results (i.e. impossible to have simultaneous landing and launching operations)?
And if you want to widen and/or lengthen the flight deck further just so that your angled landing deck can avoid the EMCAT launch position - Sooner or later, you will just end up with a proper CV instead. See how that "面多了加水，水多了加面" snowballing effect is going?
Furthermore, notice how the angled landing deck actually eats up much of the starboard side spaces at the stern section of the flight deck as well. Coupled with the EMCAT + EMCAT launch position, observe how small the spaces for parking, loading, refueling and servicing aircrafts and helicopters are left on the flight deck.
With a straight deck as seen on the 076, the LHD actually has the spaces along much of the entire length of the flight deck on the starboard side (bar the island superstructures) that can be used for parking, loading, refueling and servicing aircrafts and helicopters. That means at least several more aircrafts and helicopters that can be carried onboard.
So there's that.
Rough illustration made by @horobeyo on Twitter.
Having a ~100 meter EMCAT means that operations of heavier carrier-based aircraft onboard are expected/anticipated.
Subsequently, given the much shorter length of the LHD's flight deck compared to proper CVs - Having an angled deck literally makes no difference to a straight deck in terms on how an aircraft that is landing on the LHD which missed the arresting wires is going to avoid another aircraft that is in the launch position - Simply because, they both cannot.
The launch position of the EMCAT is going to eat into the landing deck in both straight and angled deck configurations either way. So why bother with an angled deck on the 076, when you could just uss a straight deck that can actually save more material and money for having basically similar results (i.e. impossible to have simultaneous landing and launching operations)?
And if you want to widen and/or lengthen the flight deck further just so that your angled landing deck can avoid the EMCAT launch position - Sooner or later, you will just end up with a proper CV instead. See how that "面多了加水，水多了加面" snowballing effect is going?
Furthermore, notice how the angled landing deck actually eats up much of the starboard side spaces at the stern section of the flight deck as well. Coupled with the EMCAT + EMCAT launch position, observe how small the spaces for parking, loading, refueling and servicing aircrafts and helicopters are left on the flight deck.
With a straight deck as seen on the 076, the LHD actually has the spaces along much of the entire length of the flight deck on the starboard side (bar the island superstructures) that can be used for parking, loading, refueling and servicing aircrafts and helicopters. That means at least several more aircrafts and helicopters that can be carried onboard.
So there's that.
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proelite
Junior Member
Elaborate lol.
Wouldn't landing heavier aircraft off center on a ship in rougher seas be problematic? Hence why the arresting wires are always in the vertical center of angled carriers.
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Any idea what the module circled in yellow could be and where would it fit? Although it could fit the area indicated by the blue line, it would be a very weird place to put it. But there is no other obvious place for it, and it doesn't look like it will go onto another ship.
left side of blue line with an outward angle.
assume there is a set of gap/holes in middle of the module’s left side.