Type 022 Missile Boat
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big toothbrush
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Re: Missiles for 2208 catamaran FAC
the example you gave is cooperation between su-30s, destroyers and 22xxs. this makes sense now. modern warfare are based upon system cooperation. different weapons need to work together. in this system, AWACS is extremely important. because for to destroy targets, you have to get targets informations at the first; to transfer informations from sensors units to other units, you will need AWACS keeping direct datalink contact with different units in real time. without AWACS, talking about C4I is a joke. unfortunately, AWACS can't perform in sky area where is controled by enemy. so who wins the war is still dicided by who controls the sky.
i don't think US CVBG would ever get into chinese planes' range. the land-based planes are superior than ship-based planes on both quality and quantity. american carrier will stay at least 1500km away from china mainland. the su-30s vs f-18s is unlikely going to happen.
MIGleader said:
the example you gave is cooperation between su-30s, destroyers and 22xxs. this makes sense now. modern warfare are based upon system cooperation. different weapons need to work together. in this system, AWACS is extremely important. because for to destroy targets, you have to get targets informations at the first; to transfer informations from sensors units to other units, you will need AWACS keeping direct datalink contact with different units in real time. without AWACS, talking about C4I is a joke. unfortunately, AWACS can't perform in sky area where is controled by enemy. so who wins the war is still dicided by who controls the sky.
MIGleader said:
i don't think US CVBG would ever get into chinese planes' range. the land-based planes are superior than ship-based planes on both quality and quantity. american carrier will stay at least 1500km away from china mainland. the su-30s vs f-18s is unlikely going to happen.
big toothbrush
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Re: Missiles for 2208 catamaran FAC
they got that close in 1996 is because they wanna show their power and determination. if war would ever happen, they don't have to be that close but still have the ability to stop beijing's military actions toward taiwan.
they got that close in 1996 is because they wanna show their power and determination. if war would ever happen, they don't have to be that close but still have the ability to stop beijing's military actions toward taiwan.
DPRKPTboat
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Re: Missiles for 2208 catamaran FAC
You'll have probably seen these photos, but they're good shots so I'm posting them anyway. I found them on Jeff Head's site. I hope he dosen't mind.
Am I the only one to notice that the first of class, 2208, is the only one to have been painted in the camoflage scheme? The others are just painted standard grey. Are they going to be painted in thes same scheme as the first, or are they just going to stay as they are? I don't see why only one would be painted like that. Logically, the others should follow suit. And I wonder what is the point of painting them like that when battleship-grey is adequate camo in ocean conditions. By the way, who managed to take these? These are some brilliant shots.
You'll have probably seen these photos, but they're good shots so I'm posting them anyway. I found them on Jeff Head's site. I hope he dosen't mind.
Am I the only one to notice that the first of class, 2208, is the only one to have been painted in the camoflage scheme? The others are just painted standard grey. Are they going to be painted in thes same scheme as the first, or are they just going to stay as they are? I don't see why only one would be painted like that. Logically, the others should follow suit. And I wonder what is the point of painting them like that when battleship-grey is adequate camo in ocean conditions. By the way, who managed to take these? These are some brilliant shots.
Re: Missiles for 2208 catamaran FAC
I am not a expert in ship.. but this is my point of view
Well in any case if they really wanna make the 2208 useful.... they should give it
the YJ-62 with datalink.
A Destoryers - Frigates fleet... pretending to close into the CBG with load of Air support. Letting a rumor out dat the Sub force going to attacking. Pushing in enough for the destory to gather firing data and gather all the attention of the CBG, but without really making a challenge. Then muti- pack of the 2208 can come in unnoticed in different direction and let of it load.
In this case the 2208 dun even need a firing-control radar.
I am not a expert in ship.. but this is my point of view
Well in any case if they really wanna make the 2208 useful.... they should give it
the YJ-62 with datalink.
A Destoryers - Frigates fleet... pretending to close into the CBG with load of Air support. Letting a rumor out dat the Sub force going to attacking. Pushing in enough for the destory to gather firing data and gather all the attention of the CBG, but without really making a challenge. Then muti- pack of the 2208 can come in unnoticed in different direction and let of it load.
In this case the 2208 dun even need a firing-control radar.
big toothbrush
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Re: Missiles for 2208 catamaran FAC
the 22xxs do have datalink antennas. but it doesn't mean they can use datalink if they want in any time. AWACS and other planes hardly survive when enemy control the sky. informations from satellites are always hours dated. without basic informations, 22xxs even don't know where is enemy fleet, what's enemies' speed, direction. how could they come in unnoticed in different direction? whatever tactics is going to be done, we should clearly know both enemy's and our informations at the first. so the most important is the ability to get informations and share these informations with every unit immediately.
the 22xxs do have datalink antennas. but it doesn't mean they can use datalink if they want in any time. AWACS and other planes hardly survive when enemy control the sky. informations from satellites are always hours dated. without basic informations, 22xxs even don't know where is enemy fleet, what's enemies' speed, direction. how could they come in unnoticed in different direction? whatever tactics is going to be done, we should clearly know both enemy's and our informations at the first. so the most important is the ability to get informations and share these informations with every unit immediately.
DPRKPTboat
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Re: Missiles for 2208 catamaran FAC
Thanks for those great pics, New2U. I think they awnsered my question about the camoflage - they are all being painted. Someone should put those on the SDF article about this thing. And now there a fifth catamaran? I never heard about that. That should also be updated to the 2208 article.
About the camoflage; as MiG leader pinted out, it is the sme camo used by the PLA marines. i wonder if this thing is going to be operated by them. But as he also said, that camo fits well in shallow waters like the Taiwan strait, so its pretty clear what the marines and the catamaran are intended for. I repeat ny third question - who took these? I'm surprised anyuone could get that close to these things without being arrested, unless they are from a newspaper or something.
Thanks for those great pics, New2U. I think they awnsered my question about the camoflage - they are all being painted. Someone should put those on the SDF article about this thing. And now there a fifth catamaran? I never heard about that. That should also be updated to the 2208 article.
About the camoflage; as MiG leader pinted out, it is the sme camo used by the PLA marines. i wonder if this thing is going to be operated by them. But as he also said, that camo fits well in shallow waters like the Taiwan strait, so its pretty clear what the marines and the catamaran are intended for. I repeat ny third question - who took these? I'm surprised anyuone could get that close to these things without being arrested, unless they are from a newspaper or something.