Type 022 Missile Boat

Re: Missiles for 2208 catamaran FAC

Thanks for those great pics, New2U. I think they awnsered my question about the camoflage - they are all being painted. Someone should put those on the SDF article about this thing. And now theres a fifth catamaran? I never heard about that. That should also be updated to the 2208 article.
About the camoflage; as MiG leader pinted out, it is the sme camo used by the PLA marines. i wonder if this thing is going to be operated by them. But as he also said, that camo fits well in shallow waters like the Taiwan strait, so its pretty clear what the marines and the catamaran are intended for. I repeat ny third question - who took these? I'm surprised anyuone could get that close to these things without being arrested, unless they are from a newspaper or something.

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a guy on warsky forum said that he took these pics from window in his home.

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I'll believe that. The PLAN has been widely publicizing images of the new FAC in testings. But they have yet to release any official information. They havnt even said the boat uses an ak-630,which is very evident to any viewer. Perhaps they want romanticize the boat in the eyes of the Chinese public as some kind of new, advanced super weapon.

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big toothbrush said:

anybody's seen this before? any thought?

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I just couldnt sleep my nigths of before this was solved...
Orginnally I pasted wrong picture of wrong missile system, from wrong ship...

Here's Primauguet and looking it missiles (im afraid I cannot find any closer wiev) you clearly see that the launcher is the same as in the 'mystery' picture, just like Vincelee anticipated. My orginal 'proof' was from douple launcher, not quintable launcher....

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big toothbrush said:

anybody's seen this before? any thought?

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I am pretty sure that launcher isn't on a 2208 class FAC. There are handrails clearly visible along the side which confirm that we are seeing the exterior of the launcher, whereas the 2208's have the launchers covered for stealth reasons.

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Ok, I’ve done some crude analysis to determine just how big the launchers are:

If the guy walking is a real shorty, then we could be looking at a missile length of 25 feet, then again if he is tall, it could be say 30 feet. I’ve plumbed for the middle with an estimated missile length of say 27 feet – but 30 feet (9.14m) is about the max.

Possible missiles:
YJ-62 = 6.1m = possible
SS-N-22 Sunburn (”Moskit”) = 9.38m = unlikely – extremely tight fit
YJ-8/82 = 6.4m = possible
YJ-7 = 2.5m = possible

Ok, that didn’t get us very far but I think it is wise to say that the launchers are slightly too short to accommodate the Sunburn.

My money is on the YJ-62.

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Would you please measure the width and depth of these laucnhers aswell? Im hoping we can trim our list of missles down even firther.

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Well, it looks to be 6ft tall and probably square, so you could fit a quad launcher of any missile that is less than say 2ft~2.5ft diameter with fins (folded).

The Moskit is almost certainly too big for that launcher although only just.

Another factor is blast venting on launch. There is a small hatch/pannel on the side of the launcher which may be a blast door, but i'd bet that it vents out the bottom of the boat between the hulls. That would mean that the launch tubes would have to be somewhat shorter than the 9m max, but then most anti-ship missiles are around the 6m mark plus a launch booster, so it's quite possible. If it does blast straight out the back, then it'll fry anyone standing on the rear deck, lol.




Going back to the mystery tubes, I'm going in with VinceLee here, it's French made MM40 Exocet. Can't identify the exact platform but these missiles are used by Taiwan among others. Other users include France, Argentina, Greece, ~EDIT~, South Africa and Saudi Arabia.


If France has sold China MM40 then we would have heard about it.

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chhörm...

Finland

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never used exocets, never did and never will...

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well, this is not exactly missiles for 2208, but this is news on type 22. I figured that we might as well make this the dedicated thread for type 22 FACs.

Don't worry about the Chinese part. It seems to be just your usual Chinese rant, but the more curious part is the location. It seems to be indicating a shipyard in Guangxi is starting to build type 22 (news, since previous type 22s have all been built in Shanghai, Qiuxin shipyard) Or maybe it's saying that type 22s are joining service there. Or maybe they are saying the Guangxi shipyard already built them? Not to clear for me. Anyhow, the reason I'm posting this is because type 22 seems to be in some mass production mode now. I'm not sure if Qiuxin is building anything other than type 22 for PLAN. But if it is, that would suggest this shift would free up Qiuxin to concentrate on larger designs. If not, then you are simply seeing the proliferation of the type 22 design. Either way, it's a good news to see that more shipyards in China capable of building military grade ships for PLAN.

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after reading the title of the article
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it seems to indicate that this FAC is getting launched. So yeah, more type 22s than just the 4 in Shanghai.