Type 022 Missile Boat

crobato

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Re: Missiles for 2208 catamaran FAC

That's a possibility too. I also wonder if China's large purchase of 500 3M80E Sunburns (the less advanced variant, probably at fire sale prices) have also something to do with the 022s.
 

Violet Oboe

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Re: Missiles for 2208 catamaran FAC

500 units of Sunburns (3M80E) ? Are you sure crobato?

Perhaps China has resorted to reverse engineering in producing a Sunburn (3M80E) ´look alike´?
Another interesting question would be how the usage of the 3M80E AshM could affect the tactical pattern of operation of type 022.
 

crobato

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Re: Missiles for 2208 catamaran FAC

KANWA claims that Raduga says that China bought 500 3M80Es from them. Personally I have some doubts on this matter.
 

Gollevainen

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Re: Missiles for 2208 catamaran FAC

Moskits are out of the question as its impossiple in physical terms to fit them to the hangar of 022.
 

tphuang

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Re: Missiles for 2208 catamaran FAC

500 units of Sunburns (3M80E) ? Are you sure crobato?

Perhaps China has resorted to reverse engineering in producing a Sunburn (3M80E) ´look alike´?
Another interesting question would be how the usage of the 3M80E AshM could affect the tactical pattern of operation of type 022.
If they are reverse engineering it, they wouldn't be purchasing 500.
I think they are overstating it, but it shouldn't be that surprising. As seen with R-27/R-77, they are purchasing a lot of missiles for the number of platforms they have. Just making sure they still have supplies in case of a war.
 

tphuang

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there are some pictures of 136 and 022s.
11月中旬,海军南海舰队出动数十艘(架)舰艇、飞机在大洋深处展开以实兵实装实弹检验性演练为主要内容的实战化训练。在复杂电磁环境和恶劣气象条件下,练技术、练战法、练协同、练作风,从难、从严、从实战出发摔打磨炼,使部队训练质量和整体作战能力得到有效提升。 新华社记者 查春明摄
basically saying that in the middle of November, SSF used more than 10 ships and planes to go through a realistic exercise using real troops, real missiles. The exercise were under extremely complex electronic environment and bad weather. This is to train new techniques, new doctrine, new cooperation. This will allow the combat capability to go up for the fleet.
 

kw64

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Re: Missiles for 2208 catamaran FAC

I'm wondering, are the lids on those large missile structures stay closed normally, and would automatically opens up when they're firing the missile. Or they just take the lids off after they've installed the missiles? Keeping those lids on certainly helps its stealth ability but I don't see any automatic mechanisms would open/close those lids.
 

planeman

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I think they are roll-down shutters similar to the ones used on shop fronts.
shop_front_10.jpg

Obviously they'd be stealth optimised. Similar doors are used on many stealthy warships to conceal the boat deck etc.
 

tphuang

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Re: Missiles for 2208 catamaran FAC

Here's a pic posted from CDF.

[qimg]http://www.china-defense.com/forum/uploads/post-520-1197635019.jpg[/qimg]

well, this is actually not the best photo, but another similar photo shows clearly what 022 is launching here.
 
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