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sequ said:

Because of the long history of engine making? I dunno.

Perhaps also because of this:

"Its 100,000th engine was produced in May 2017, its fleet logged 730 million flight hours and 60,000 in-service engines are operated by 12,300 customers in more than 200 countries."

Perhaps that is what he meant by dominant power??

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right. but he said only 4 to 5 countries have this technology. this is where China's name should have been mention.

i don't think so. i need to tell about Chinese aero engine industry. China is relatively a new player in this sector. neither mainstream media cover news from China so these people are unaware. not his fault

sunnymaxi said:

right. but he said only 4 to 5 countries have this technology. this is where China's name should have been mention.

i don't think so. i need to tell about Chinese aero engine industry. China is relatively a new player in this sector. neither mainstream media cover news from China so these people are unaware. not his fault

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I dunno but China is not a dominant power in that regard. The other countries he mentioned have a long successful history and/or a wide spread of their products. Both of which China currently lacks.

sequ said:

I dunno but China is not a dominant power in that regard. The other countries he mentioned have both a long successful history and/or a wide spread of their products. Both of which China currently lacks.

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in this regard he is right. 'long successful history and/or a wide spread of their products'

China just started their journey and first export came into play with J-10C powered by WS-10B to Pakistan. more to come as many countries are interested in J-10 and FC-31. this decade is really interesting to follow

gelgoog said:

The Japanese have been leaders in metallurgy for a long time. But they also are having problems. And with the right design you can sometimes kinda sidestep issues with metallurgy. The Soviets did that all the time. And the Russians also do it. Check the specifications of the Al-41 vs the original Al-31. And both use the same materials.

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The Russian did it with increment, first batch was burning itself up fast the othe had better lifetime, they become stronger after a while, etc. WS-10 have taken more or less the same path, strating from something that was borderline but could be tested on airplanes, to something that works, that something equal to al-31 and after a while better and finally supplanting them.

Turkey need to start somewhere, they need to roll-out something that work and build on it. Even if the engine just have 100 hours of life time, it's a start. But they need to be sure to have something to fill the gap before they can use it and not sleeping on that fill gap solution.

There are two important statements from a well known forum mod at another forum that quotes the CEO of TEI, Aksit, but he has provided no source thus far.

He claimed the CEO said that the TS1400 uses 3rd generation single crystal turbine blades:

"We used the 3rd generation of national single crystal turbine blades in the TS1400. We are now developing a more advanced single crystal blade technology"

And this also:

"We proudly say that we have produced turbine blades with additive manufacturing 95% (better ?) strength of forged blades. They provide better strength than forged blades and we've documented this. For the first time in our national engines, we used the additive manufacturing technology on the rotating blades and we could not explode the engine even once in the trials. The most special thing our engineers do is to optimize this technology and ensure that it is used most effectively in this field."

Quite the revelations if true, but looking at the track record of said mod, he is trustable. I've scoured the internet to look for the source of these statements but found nothing. Maybe someone else knows where to look?

sequ said:

There are two important statements from a well known forum mod at another forum that quotes the CEO of TEI, Aksit, but he has provided no source thus far.

He claimed the CEO said that the TS1400 uses 3rd generation single crystal turbine blades:

"We used the 3rd generation of national single crystal turbine blades in the TS1400. We are now developing a more advanced single crystal blade technology"

And this also:

"We proudly say that we have produced turbine blades with additive manufacturing 95% (better ?) strength of forged blades. They provide better strength than forged blades and we've documented this. For the first time in our national engines, we used the additive manufacturing technology on the rotating blades and we could not explode the engine even once in the trials. The most special thing our engineers do is to optimize this technology and ensure that it is used most effectively in this field."

Quite the revelations if true, but looking at the track record of said mod, he is trustable. I've scoured the internet to look for the source of these statements but found nothing. Maybe someone else knows where to look?

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3D printed blade?

According to president Erdogan, the Kizilelma will enter serial production at the end of 2023.


LMAO, if I was an aerospace engineer I would avoid working for Baykar by all means...

siegecrossbow said:

3D printed blade?

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Yes. But I don't know the source of these statements so take it with a grain of salt. Perhaps someone else knows where Aksit said it.

sequ said:

Yes. But I don't know the source of these statements so take it with a grain of salt. Perhaps someone else knows where Aksit said it.

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On PDF I read that it is electron beam based 3D metal printing. Unfortunately I can noon get locate the post. It is buried under a mountain of bitter bickering.

There are 3D printers for Inconel which is a material which used to be used in earlier generation jet engine turbines.