Turkey Military News, Reports, Data, etc.

Material aside, without know how, you can never develop any turbofan engine, period.

No nation will provide you the core part, and even if they do, they will not give you the source code and you are left with junk that you have no idea what it can do or cannot.

There's no shortcut. State's capability to develop own source code, materials, design of the core of tubofan engine etc will all be put into test, and until one has been rolled out successfully, any timeline promised should be taken with a grain of salt.

The Japanese have been leaders in metallurgy for a long time. But they also are having problems. And with the right design you can sometimes kinda sidestep issues with metallurgy. The Soviets did that all the time. And the Russians also do it. Check the specifications of the Al-41 vs the original Al-31. And both use the same materials.

Step by step...

"How can we locally develop materials, subsystems and components that we consider strategic? For this, we have three or four different teams established on the basis of directorates. Their duties are to first develop technology, develop materials and process technologies, and then turn it into a product. In other words, we apply the technologies we develop to our engines. The locality rate in the next engine we build is always higher. The most difficult subject in the defense industry is aviation. The engine is also the most difficult subject of aviation. In this context, only four or five places in the world have this technology. The dominant powers in the world in this regard are the USA, Canada, England, France, Russia and Ukraine. We are on the way as the fifth to making engines with more than 10,000 thrust. Of course, these works of TEI are seen as a threat. In this context, we encounter various obstacles."

TUSAŞ R&D Procurement Manager Ahmet Özşahin.

STM thinktank 2021, Page 134

Step by step by step...

"We have come to the level of making a lot of subcomponents and motors by adding the knowledge on top of each other. All of our additive manufacturing has been activated. We made the first super alloy forging point in Turkey. We did the casting. We make the engine control system locally. This is the brain of the engine. We make the gearbox. We are currently working on lubrication fuel systems. Engine sensors are critical. We are still working on that part now. In our next engine, our technology at the subsystem and material level is one step ahead. Developing an engine costs billions of dollars. 40,000 people work at Rolls Royce. There are hundreds of university chairs. These are the companies we see as competitors. We also have 800 engineers and they are fighting with their hearts. Now we have started mass production in the piston engine family. The development of our turboshaft engine continues. We will also have new engines in the future. When these engines meet with air platforms, our technological independence will reach a higher level."

TUSAŞ R&D Procurement Manager Ahmet Özşahin.

STM thinktank 2021, Page 136

Bear in mind this interview was conducted during the development of the TF6000, but before it was announced to the public back in June.

TF10000 will be announced soon:

"It was evaluated that the TF6000 could be used in the KIZILELMA Combat Unmanned Aircraft System. Mahmut F. Akşit also added that the TF10000AB engine with afterburner over the TF6000 will be announced soon."

sequ said:

In this context, only four or five places in the world have this technology. The dominant powers in the world in this regard are the USA, Canada, England, France, Russia and Ukraine

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this statement is not accurate. Most modern Western engine and turbine projects are cooperative. F135 engine has European suppliers.
US may independently pulled it off so in that sense the word dominant can be associated with US alone in West.
The rest like France and others are not in top tier. thats why you have Rafale/EF engine with same thrust as what was original and these two engines are unable to compete in various single engine fighters as the cost and time of certification is prohibitive.

sequ said:

only four or five places in the world have this technology. The dominant powers in the world in this regard are the USA, Canada, England, France, Russia and Ukraine. We are on the way as the fifth to making engines with more than 10,000 thrust.

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man didn't even bother to mention China in aero engines. but include Canada. LAMFO

lack of knowledge about China is ridiculous in media. same story on social media. most of the people are unaware of China's aero engine industry.

sunnymaxi said:

man didn't even bother to mention China in aero engines. but include Canada. LAMFO

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Because of PWC:

"Although PWC is a division of P&W, it does its own research, development and marketing as well as the manufacturing of its engines. The company currently has about 10,000 employees worldwide, with 6,000 of them in Canada."

sequ said:

Because of PWC:

"Although PWC is a division of P&W, it does its own research, development and marketing as well as the manufacturing of its engines. The company currently has about 10,000 employees worldwide, with 6,000 of them in Canada."

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fine. but why he didn't mention China.

sunnymaxi said:

fine. but why he didn't mention China.

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Because of the long history of engine making? I dunno.

Perhaps also because of this:

"Its 100,000th engine was produced in May 2017, its fleet logged 730 million flight hours and 60,000 in-service engines are operated by 12,300 customers in more than 200 countries."

Perhaps that is what he meant by dominant power??