Trump 2.0 official thread

Bellum_Romanum

Brigadier
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I hope sanity prevails but not with the orange buffoon and his band of wanna-be-robber-barons-he is shooting through himself just to try to hit China.Vigilance,patience,strength,toughness is the order of the day-if Trump thinks he can scare the likes of the CPC with all of its experience against,the worse threats like Soviet nuclear atteack,US nuclear threats,brutal genocidal Japan war,still unfinished Chinese civil war,trade sanctions galore and about 10-12 years ago a "mysterious"outbreak of African swine virus to destroy Chinese food supplies.Obamas' Covid19 creation/attack in2018?to infect the whole Chinese nation from Wuhan via World Military Games during CNY mass travel -Trump had better think again.So don't ever tell me we Chinese haven't been attacked. Mao/Deng would be glad to see this day's China and her strength in all spheres. :) :) :)
Think about the devastating fallout from their moves: schemes meant to crush our nation and plunge millions into misery. Meanwhile, @HailingTX20 and his crowd demand we don’t even dream of pushing back, slapping us with the warmonger label for daring to stand up. And who sparked this disaster? Their people, of course—making their position not just absurd, but downright shameless.
 

Biscuits

Colonel
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Think about the devastating fallout from their moves: schemes meant to crush our nation and plunge millions into misery. Meanwhile, @HailingTX20 and his crowd demand we don’t even dream of pushing back, slapping us with the warmonger label for daring to stand up. And who sparked this disaster? Their people, of course—making their position not just absurd, but downright shameless.
In the words of Tony lc

Dont care, anyways

We will win and if they need us to step over many of them physically then so be it. They challenged us first out of nowhere. China was perfectly content letting America access their universal rights to development and peace.

However, American civilians should remember that whether China wins or some black swan turns the world against us and we need to samson option the whole place down, the current American regime never cared for you and never will. You're just fodder to them and they'd like to make us fodder to them also. We say no. You can also say no. Or don't, but prepared to get stepped over then.
 

generalmeng

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Trump threatens China with an ADDITIONAL 50% tariff if they don’t remove their new 34% tariff on U.S. goods


Very unlikely China will remove the 34% tariff, very unlikely Trump is joking -> by April 9th we will have 100% tariff on Chinese goods.

Practically he is decoupling from China in one go.

This will have very heavy impact for both countries.

IMHO after the experience of slow decoupling in semiconductors, where the export bans have been gradual and spaced in time along 5 years, with the net result that China has been able to reach self-sufficiency with an incredible hard work but also with many years of time, now he does not want to do the same mistake and is going for the full punch immediately....
many goods are still over 1000% cheaper to be made in China. So trump still have a long way to go if they want to bring manufacturing back to murica
 

supersnoop

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IMHO it would make little sense.

China mainly imports agricultural and energy (oil/gas) commodities from US: a +34% tariff practically means to put US product out of the Chinese market.

China does not need further tariffs to decouple, instead for the kind of products imported by US a 50% tariff may not be enough to stop buying Chinese, so now Trump goes all in with the 100% tariff.

I still don't understand how can US importers quickly find replacements, because for many of those products the alternative supply chains have been already disrupted or reduced to a small capacity many years ago.
It's just a branding exercise at this point, not economic policy.
He is an expert at branding Trump University, Trump Steaks, Trump Hotels, Trump Mattresses, etc.
Now he has decided his brand as the President is "Tariffs"

When America was the sole source of computers and microchips in the 80's, they cost thousands of dollars (then), with inflation, it would be close to $10,000. Only professionals are buying a computer for that kind of money now. A Motorola DynaTAC cell phone would be even more. So for all these manufacturing jobs "lost", you just moved them into computer programming, Amazon warehouses, social media advertisers, cell phone stores, etc. If computers and cell phones were still priced at that level, they would be a super luxury or corporate goods, that tech economy would not exist.
 

iewgnem

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Trump threatens China with an ADDITIONAL 50% tariff if they don’t remove their new 34% tariff on U.S. goods


Very unlikely China will remove the 34% tariff, very unlikely Trump is joking -> by April 9th we will have 100% tariff on Chinese goods.

Practically he is decoupling from China in one go.

This will have very heavy impact for both countries.

IMHO after the experience of slow decoupling in semiconductors, where the export bans have been gradual and spaced in time along 5 years, with the net result that China has been able to reach self-sufficiency with an incredible hard work but also with many years of time, now he does not want to do the same mistake and is going for the full punch immediately....
Export to the US make up just 2% of China's GDP, even if America collapses and ceases to exist the impact would be no more than 6 month of growth, lol

I mean BYD sells zero cars in the US and is still easily crushing every western automaker.... and this is true for every other Chinese auto company as well.

And that's before you consider China has chokpoint control over most industry, industries Americans has never heard of before, like dysprosium, which is actually critical if you want to make anything that contain electric motors, and this is just a tiny corner of modern technology.

So even with 1000% tariffs Americans will still have to pay up.
 

iewgnem

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many goods are still over 1000% cheaper to be made in China. So trump still have a long way to go if they want to bring manufacturing back to murica
Price doesn't even matter these days, China has literal monopoly over large number of industrial supply chains, China can jack prices up by 1000% and they still have to pay up, which is why China's doing export controls
 

Ringsword

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After watching the latest string of spectacular policy making by American boomer decision makers I’d like to quote the venerable Confucius on behalf of the American people:

子曰 老而不死是为贼。

Translation —

Confucius say — boomers should go fucking die.
And it hasn't even been 6 fricking months and everyday I wake up to another seismic imbecilic maneuver by the "Stable Genius"Trump and his racist,uber-ignorant ,sycophantic ,utterly corrupt toady yes-men,dolts.I have always wondered what was it like to live in an era of corrupt, evil despotic kings and their vile cohort nobles...now I know.
 
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