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sanctionsevader

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The US trade representative office's implementation of the $1.5 million per port call fee is expected to be done on April 17th, some commentary about this from the CEO of an American logistics company:


Paired with the tariffs, this could result in significant economic damage to the US
So will US exporters survive that? I assume there's at least once company that can service such requirements, although i seriously doubt they can fulfil the amount required by the vaccum which would be left by the big companies like COSCO and MAERSK
 

iewgnem

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The US trade representative office's implementation of the $1.5 million per port call fee is expected to be done on April 17th, some commentary about this from the CEO of an American logistics company:


Paired with the tariffs, this could result in significant economic damage to the US
Crossing fingers he follows through

I find it funny that the only thing Trump could do that would actually hurt China is banning TikTok and reduce Chinese influence on American minds, but that's the one thing he's folding over and over on.
 

Wrought

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The US trade representative office's implementation of the $1.5 million per port call fee is expected to be done on April 17th, some commentary about this from the CEO of an American logistics company:


Paired with the tariffs, this could result in significant economic damage to the US

Ironically, the two measures are less than the sum of their parts because they cannibalize each other. Fewer imports (because tariffs) means lower fees (because fewer ships) and vice versa.
 

Lethe

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Something I posted seven years ago...

The argument that "it doesn't make sense, therefore it won't happen" doesn't inspire confidence. It assumes not only rational actors with perfect information, but it does not account for many differing motives, ideologies, and institutional structures involved.

China must be prepared for an irrational United States acting out its worst impulses under the influence of decision-makers whose visions of what is sensible, desirable, and achievable may be very different from our own. I have already spoken of the contingent that would be only too happy to see a crisis in America's ability to borrow as an excuse to dismantle the non-military aspects of the US federal government. And of course Trump personally, as with other American presidents, and indeed rulers everywhere, draws strength from confrontation with adversaries.

The bottom line is that America believes that it is the greatest nation on earth and that it has the right and the power to run the world. Any limitations on American power or flaws in American society are therefore signs of a treasonous fifth column in American society or "cheating" by other nations. The interlocking mythologies that sustain America's messianic vision of itself will not dissipate with Trump's departure. The growing tension between America's idea of itself and the realities of domestic political dysfunction, the ongoing decline of the white middle class, increasing global multipolarity and the looming Chinese Dragon will tend towards increasingly spectacular, even violent collisions, and there will be a powerful impulse to continued escalation in order to Make America Great Again, i.e. to validate America's messianic vision of itself.
 

Eventine

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Ironically, the two measures are less than the sum of their parts because they cannibalize each other. Fewer imports (because tariffs) means lower fees (because fewer ships) and vice versa.
I mean the port fees also affect other countries that want to trade with the US so it’s effectively an attempt at global sanctions on Chinese ship yards.
 

Wrought

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I mean the port fees also affect other countries that want to trade with the US so it’s effectively an attempt at global sanctions on Chinese ship yards.

The other countries which Trump has all tariffed? Less ships will be coming from every country, because nobody has been spared.

Except for North Korea, I guess, famously an export powerhouse.
 
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