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coolgod

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Their senate leader bent the knee yesterday and he came to do it again. I wouldn’t be surprised if they fully support the annexation of Panama, Greenland, and Canada at this rate.


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I don't think Chuck Schumer bent any knees, the funding bill is a continuing resolution, basically contains all of Biden's waste and pork barrel funding. You are just falling for a show to make it seem like Trump's reforms are actually working.
 

JJD1803

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The wealth gap will likely widen. Reasoning below
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For the past 30+ years, the bottom 50% of Americans have seen their incomes actually decrease.
If you think about it, this is amazing statistic.

What happened to all the economic gains in terms of technology, productivity and globalisation over the past 30 years?

The answer is that all these gains over the past 30 years have flowed to the rich in America.
And this occurred during both Republican and Democrat governments.

The studies also indicate that in terms of actual decision-making, American politicians has been captured by interest groups and money. That is not democracy. As the Financial Times (London) points out, this describes a plutocracy.

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And if we look at what Trump is proposing, it is essentially:
1. lower taxes for the rich
2. cutting government spending, which is disproportionately consumed by the working class
3. increased tariffs on imports. These costs will be paid disproportionately by the working class, not the rich

So if anything, incomes for the bottom half of Americans will continue getting worse, along with even more wealth inequality as the rich get richer.

But the American working class doesn't understand this.

All they see is the left/right divide, and populists like Trump blame immigrants and foreign countries as the reason why the working class is getting poorer. (The solution to this problem is actually higher taxes on passive income from wealth and more redistribution)

So in 10 years, we can reasonably expect to see the Republican party and Republican Presidents become even more nakedly populist than Trump. We'll also see more outright and blatant corruption, such as the Trump and Melania memecoins recently launched with no other purpose than to scam Americans and enrich the Trumps. Plus Trump has normalised domestic vindictiveness and political purges in the US government.

So American internal divisions should become far worse in the future.

Something similar is happening to other already developed countries.

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The situation feels very much like a Marxist description of capitalism and the divide between the proletariat versus the bourgeoisie.

And there are parallels to the early twentieth century when the US government was controlled/run by the Robber Baron Oligarchs of the era.
In an ironic way FDR’s new deal saved capitalism in the US. Because the wealth gap was so bad that you had a militant left and growing socialist movement in the US. The Great Depression catapulted FDR to power. And he told the oligarch at the time that “I’m the only thing standing between you and the pitchforks.” Trump is implementing economic shock therapy to the US. Look at Argentina to see what awaits. But they under estimate the tolerance of the American people.
 

FriedButter

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I don't think Chuck Schumer bent any knees, the funding bill is a continuing resolution, basically contains all of Biden's waste and pork barrel funding.

No, the democrats definitely did. The problem is that put up an image of false opposition when they were never serious. They threaten to block it, reject, etc. Then immediately did an u-turn in public messaging about 24 hours before the vote. When 36-48 hours ago, they were saying they will reject the funding bill.


Senate Democrats say they will reject GOP's funding bill as shutdown draws near

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You are just falling for a show to make it seem like Trump's reforms are actually working.

Falling for what? I posted articles that their proposals increases the debt.
 

coolgod

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No, the democrats definitely did. The problem is that put up an image of false opposition when they were never serious. They threaten to block it, reject, etc. Then immediately did an u-turn in public messaging about 24 hours before the vote. When 36-48 hours ago, they were saying they will reject the funding bill.





Falling for what? I posted articles that their proposals increases the debt.
We'll I'm confused how you can say the democrats bent the knee when the democrats help crafted the original funding bill that this CR bill relies upon. Both parties likes to play political theatre and act that they hate each other, when it's obvious they are the uniparty.

 

FriedButter

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We'll I'm confused how you can say the democrats bent the knee when the democrats help crafted the original funding bill that this CR bill relies upon. Both parties likes to play political theatre and act that they hate each other, when it's obvious they are the uniparty.

Would you say the same thing on Aug 1-2, 2022 during Pelosi trip? When China gave all the fierce warnings and then did nothing when her plane landed. Of course we know what happened after but let us ignore that and put yourself exactly on Aug 1-2, 2022. After all the warnings and strong words. Nothing happened. China and the US clearly engaged in private communications to allow it to proceed smoothly.

Now what image did that show to everyone on that day? Because that is how the Democrats is looking like to everyone in the US right about now.
 

coolgod

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Would you say the same thing on Aug 1-2, 2022 during Pelosi trip? When China gave all the fierce warnings and then did nothing when her plane landed. Of course we know what happened after but let us ignore that and put yourself exactly on Aug 1-2, 2022. After all the warnings and strong words. Nothing happened. China and the US clearly engaged in private communications to allow it to proceed smoothly.

Now what image did that show to everyone on that day? Because that is how the Democrats is looking like to everyone in the US right about now.
I see what you mean, I agree to regular observers it seems like the democrats bent the knee, but six months ago it was the republicans who bent the knee in a similar fashion.

I still don't like your analogy though, China did bent the knee imo during Pelosi trip, but China and American politicians aren't secretly allied together, unlike democrats and republicans.
 

RedMetalSeadramon

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No real difference going forward. The Nazi twat Freeland is still there, the blond bimbo Joly is still there, Mendicino the sabbath goy is still there. Expect neo-lib degeneracy to continue.
Oh this actually ended up in the wrong thread... its suppose to be in the Canada Thread.

Guess Trump has already mentally annexed Canada for me...o_O
 

Bellum_Romanum

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No real difference going forward. The Nazi twat Freeland is still there, the blond bimbo Joly is still there, Mendicino the sabbath goy is still there. Expect neo-lib degeneracy to continue.

Let’s be real...Carney isn’t about to flex the full muscle of a prime minister right now. He’s just keeping the seat warm, after all. I’ll hold my breath to see whether he actually swaps out or sticks with the same old crowd in his cabinet after the next election.

Canada’s getting squeezed hard by its so-called “respectable” overlord and it’s smarting. Carney can’t risk tipping the boat—hell, he can’t even nudge it—by ditching the current crew. Half of them, he’s still figuring out their names. Let’s not forget: the guy’s no career politician, not even close. He needs to keep these jokers around to stop the house from collapsing while he focuses on the real dumpster fire—Trump’s America breathing down our necks.
 
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