Tired of foreign domination of its telecom market share China...

crobato

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Another one for gadgets nuts like me.

Looks like Huawei scored a contract to supply Android handsets to T-Mobile in Q3.

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Report: T-Mobile to launch Huawei's Android phone in Q3
February 23, 2009 — 10:23am ET | By Phil Goldstein
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Huawei and T-Mobile have reached a deal for the carrier to launch Hauwei's Android-based phone beginning in the third quarter of 2009, according to DigiTimes. It is unclear whether Huawei will launch the phone in cooperation with T-Mobile USA or T-Mobile International.

The report also said that Huawei will produce smartphones based on the Symbian OS and will roll out those phones in the second half of the year.

Huawei is said to be developing Symbian handset models supporting HSDPA, EV-DO and TD-SCDMA technologies. The company, along with fellow Chinese telecom equipment vendor and handset maker ZTE, will also likely launch their own branded models in the future. ZTE, along with Huawei has indicated that it will look to break into the North American handset market.
 

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Due to Motorola's problems, it may drop out of the top five. A surprising fifth enters the fold.

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ZTE to become the world’s fifth largest handset maker?

Last time we checked, the world’s first five handset manufacturers were Nokia, Samsung, LG, Sony Ericsson and Motorola.

But this above is the top for the fourth quarter of 2008, and 2009 might bring a new phone maker into the spotlight. That’s ZTE, one of China’s largest telecommunications equipment makers.

DigiTimes quotes “market observers in Taiwan” who say ZTE has shipped 45 million phones last year, and is likely to enter the top 5 handset makers during 2009.

If the Chinese company indeed reached the top five, it’s either Motorola or Sony Ericsson the manufacturer that’ll fall on the sixth place (in Q4 2008, they shipped 19.2 and 24.2 million phones, respectively).

zte-t7

(this is T7 – one of ZTE’s handsets made for Australia’s Telstra)

ZTE currently has lots of agreements with various carriers around the world, including Vodafone, T-Mobile, Hutchison’s 3 and Telstra. It mainly offers entry-level phones, but it also has Windows Mobile and touchscreen devices.
 

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ZTE is trying to sell 4th gen solutions in the US. Its a full turn in the technology circle now.

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CTIA Wireless 2009
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LAS VEGAS--(BUSINESS WIRE)--ZTE USA, Inc., a subsidiary of ZTE Corporation, a leading global telecommunications equipment and network solutions provider, today unveiled its LTE strategy for the North American market at CTIA Wireless 2009. With a Software Defined Radio (SDR) platform-based UMTS solution already developed and devices expected in the next 12-18 months, ZTE is positioned to provide end-to-end solutions for North American operators looking to deploy LTE in the near future. ZTE is also showcasing a range of next-generation, integrated LTE solutions at the conference.

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Oh goodie, thanks to Apple, there is a chance mobile phones in China might be allowed WiFi access. As you know, current regs prohibit mobile phones from having wifi access. Retarded in my opinion, I have Wifi in my phones. The rules maybe changed to allow the iPhone in China.

Currently there was some reports that Apple and China Unicom has come to an agreement, then other reports came out to suggest that news of a deal has been premature.



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parts of Dan Butterfield's blog.

"Is there a chance for Wifi? Yes, but in the near-term (2009) it’s less than 50/50 odds. I’d place the Vegas line at 70/30 against. But hey, 30% is still a chance. There are many who might say that 30% odds for an iPhone with WiFi is optimistic. But China’s Ministry of Industry and Information Technology (MIIT) gave us reason to be hopeful. On March 18, 2009 Marbridge Consulting reported that:

“A source close to the Ministry of Industry and Information Technology (MIIT) says the ban on Wi-Fi enabled mobile handsets might be lifted shortly, with the condition that such handsets were also compatible with the Chinese-developed WAPI wireless networking standard.”

One important side note: For many years now, China ministry officials told wireless consumers that WiFi would NOT be allowed on mobile phones. The rationale for this prohibition was the fear that consumers might be tempted to illegally load VoIP apps and make calls over the Net (Skype, et. al.). China felt this would undermine carriers’ interests.

What was the result of this “no WiFi for handsets” policy? A flourishing black market in WiFi enabled mobile phones, including iPhone. There is also a major jail breaking business in China. Entrepreneurs will sell you a WiFi Smartphone and load it with a VoIP app that allows you to bypass the carrier’s network.

The genie is now out of the bottle. China’s MIIT is not blind to this thriving black market in Wifi handsets. Telecom insiders in China have estimated that a full 50% of mobile phones sold in China are traded through these black or grey market channels. How do you stop this? Make WiFi on mobile handsets legal albeit the handset may have to comply with China’s WAPI. "
 

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TD-SCDMA continues to spread. I've discovered a few things about TD-SCDMA, why it has an intrinsic advantage over other 3G protocols, and why its amenable to 4G. Talk about it later.

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TD-SCDMA Signal Will Cover All Areas Within Beijing's Fifth Ring

02 April 2009 by China Wireless News Editor | Print | Email Email

China Mobile says its TD-SCDMA networks in 10 Chinese cities have covered 95% of the areas covered by 2G networks, of which, the TD-SCDMA signal has covered all areas within the fifth ring road area of Beijing.

In addition, some large communities and counties outside the fifth ring, including Shangdi and Huilongguan, can receive the TD-SCDMA signal.

China Mobile says as Beijing completes its supplementary construction of TD-SCDMA base stations, the quality of 3G networks in the city will be further improved. So far, apart from Beijing, cities that have completed TD-SCDMA network construction include Shanghai, Tianjin, Shenyang, Guangzhou, Shenzhen, Xiamen, Qinhuangdao, Baoding, and Qingdao.

According to the statistics from China Mobile, during the TD-SCDMA commercial trial in the past year, the number of its TD-SCDMA users has increased to more than 400,000.

To provide convenient 3G experience to customers, China Mobile completed the merger of its 2G core networks with the TD-SCDMA networks at the end of 2008. With dual-mode mobile phones, China Mobile's users can enjoy the 3G services in the near future without changing of mobile phone numbers, without changing of SIM cards, and without registrations.
 

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This older article here shows a delicious irony. China's TD-SCDMA can't get off the ground without foreign brand hand sets supporting the standard. Just shows you the Chinese market is still fickle and very foreign branded.

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China Mobile Urging Nokia To Accelerate TD-SCDMA Mobile Phone Production
February 10, 2009


According to local Chinese media reports, the upper management of China's leading telecommunications operator China Mobile will soon go to Finland to promote Nokia's research and production of TD-SCDMA mobile phones.

To stimulate manufacturers' enthusiasm, China Mobile will, with the help of relevant government departments, provide policy support to international mobile phone manufacturers who support the development of the Chinese TD-SCDMA standard and give priority to those manufacturers in future tenders, purchases and product customizations.

As a national focus of China, the TD-SCDMA standard has entered large scale commercial operation. However, the terminal problems are still the largest obstacles in its development. On one hand, there are only a few varieties of TD-SCDMA mobile phones, which limit users' selections; on the other hand, the qualities of some TD-SCDMA mobile phones are low, which affects users' adoption of TD-SCDMA. In regards to these problems, China Mobile's chairman Wang Jianzhou has called for solutions several times and recently, the company has launched new measures to promote the development of the TD-SCDMA mobile phone industry chain.

For a long time, some international mobile phone manufacturers held a wait-and-see attitude about TD-SCDMA mobile phones. So far, among the world's top five mobile phone manufacturers, including Nokia, Samsung, LG, Motorola and Sony Ericsson, only the two Korean companies Samsung and LG are active in this new technology.

China Mobile expresses strong dissatisfaction with the passive attitude of these international manufacturers. To deal with this situation, China Mobile has enlarged cooperation with domestic Chinese mobile phone manufacturers in its purchasing process while sending high level officers to communicate with these international brands' overseas management.


There is an irony in this is that European handset makers were much more amenable to TDD technologies early in the decade before W-CDMA took over.

Yet TDD technologies has an inherent advantage over FDD technologies. What is TDD and FDD. TDD stands for Time Division Duplex. FDD stands for Frequency Division Duplex. All previous standards, from GSM, to CDMA to UMTS/W-CDMA/HSPA, are all FDD technologies.

Under FDD, you allocate two frequencies, one frequency is for the uplink and the other frequency is for the downlink.

Under TDD, you take one frequency, then time allocate which is for the uplink and which is for the downlink.

The disadvantage of FDD if you notice, is that its not very efficient in the use of bandwidth with regards to Internet use. To be efficient, both uplink and downlink has to be symmetrical, meaning both has equal load. That would make sense if you're dealing with voice communications, since one has to assume conversations represent an equal exchange and transmission of information.

Internet usage on the other hand is asymmetrical. Its easy to notice that far more data is downloaded than uploaded. Under an FDD scheme, the uplink would be barely used while the downlink would be overused.

TDD represents a much more efficient use of bandwidth by dynamically allocating the time slots for the uplink and downlink. This is more amenable for 4G applications.

There has been two other attempts on TDD technologies. One is PCS is Japan, which died an early death because it was viewed only as a local standard whereas NTT Docomo rushed to W-CDMA as the interface for its FOMA.

The second is the very similar sounding and in principle TD-CDMA in the US, which is championed by a company called IPWireless. TD-CDMA is aimed at the non telephony 3G and 4G markets. However, the industry is gravitating to WiMax and LTE solutions.

The Japanese implementer of TD-CDMA, IPMobile, have chosen to migrate to TD-SCDMA.

The next stage is to take TDD technology to the 4th Gen, now called TDD-LTE. It faces squarely against 4th gen FDD technologies, termed as FDD-LTE. And then there is still WiMax.

It should be noted that TD-SCDMA uses both an asynchronous CDMA (Code Division Multiple Access) and dynamic TDMA (Time Division Multiple Access). Dynamic TDMA is also used in WiMax and Bluetooth. The S in the term is misleading. It means synchronous, but not as Synchronous CDMA. Rather, it means that it's manner of allocation time slots for both TDD and TDMA is synchronized from the base station.

TDMA originated from a first gen standard and later to 2nd gen standards like GSM. But it suffers from certain inefficiencies is that time slots are fixed, and still has to be allocated even if there is little or no usage. Under a dynamic scheme, time slots are allocated when they are needed or when the usage is created, and the length of it determined by the usage.
 

challenge

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Sounds like a bunch of nonsense to me.

On the TW ratio, the J-10 doing a near vertical climb without after burners from a STOL start---so quickly that the wheels have not finished retracting---that's an indication of a hell of TW ratio. To do that stunt, the aircraft's weight, including fuel for the demo and the pilot is near and under the dry military thrust of the engine. For the AL-31FN, that's 7,950kg.

As for the data links how do they know? The telecom technology in China is so way ahead of Taiwan that even Huawei does contracts on the island. Peer to peer data link isn't exactly that hard to do. And even if it is AWACS only for the uplink, it only means the AWACS can take the uplink information and downlink it to another J-10.

As for the IRST, it is meant to track the heat from plane's exhaust as well as missiles. Yes it is affected by weather, but only certain bands because they are absorbed by water vapor. Other infrared bands are not as badly affected.

The author is pure crap, figure out why the USN has IRST on their Tomcats and Hornets.

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  10日,中国科学技术协会组织发布了《兵器科学与技术学科发展报告》。报告首次披露了近年来中国在兵器研究的各个领域中所取得的重大进展,部分兵器技术已赶超世界先进水平。

  报告显示,中国的装甲兵器已初步建立起完整的体系;装甲车辆的“机动、火力、防护”三大性能得到提升;设计方法上已从一代设计、二代仿制到开始拥有自主知识产权;大功率柴油机、快速燃烧、高增压、高温冷却等关键技术的研究和应用,已使主战装甲兵器达到了可与世界先进装备抗衡的水平。

  报告称,在国内常规武器平台上发展了新的制导兵器系列产品,初步形成了反坦克导弹、末制导炮弹、炮射导弹、制导炸弹和制导火箭的系列化。

  报告表示,虽然总体上中国弹药性能处于20世纪90年代水平,但在底排增程技术、弹道修正技术、穿破甲弹技术等方面达到国际先进水平。鱼雷、水雷技术则取得了大跃进。

  提到中国兵器信息技术的发展,报告称,兵器信息技术和国外的差距表现在兵器平台的信息化建设尚未完成,车辆综合电子信息系统缺乏统一标准等方面。另外,信息技术的前端技术方面与美国等发达国家还有较大差距。

  报告指出,中国在未来应促使兵器系统向集成化、自动化、数字化、网络化和智能化方向发展,保持传统兵器优势,进一步拓展新概念兵器,开展新型材料研究与应用。
China did openly admit that there's wide technology gap between China and west (specially the US)when it come telecommunication netwroking technology.
even in some NATO and western (or japan)countries which possess higher technology industrial base than China encounter tremendous difficulty and cost trying to developed there own version link-16 and has to rely on US for the equipment.
 
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Re: New J-10 Thread III

Just found at CDF !
 

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crobato

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Re: New J-10 Thread III

China did openly admit that there's wide technology gap between China and west (specially the US)when it come telecommunication netwroking technology.
even in some NATO and western (or japan)countries which possess higher technology industrial base than China encounter tremendous difficulty and cost trying to developed there own version link-16 and has to rely on US for the equipment.

Who told you that? Please don't get your info from an ignorant blogger or journalist. China never admitted to anything like that. China's telecommunications tech is top notch, right at the cutting edge forced by unique burdens (sheer population densities) on the telecom infrastructure. Maybe you need to read and follow up on telecommunications technology like I do and what's happening world wide.

Huawei has the most patent applications for any company in any sector around the world last year. Including IBM. ZTE sits in almost 3,000 patents alone. ZTE has a booth in the last CTIA affair in Los Angeles trying to sell 4G LTE solutions to US carriers, and Huawei has both 3G and 4G contracts even in Western Europe. Huawei is already the 5th largest telecom company in the world and is gunning for 4th place, now currently occupied by Alcatel-Lucent.

You seem to think that Link 16 is some hard to accomplish technology when its basically a format for TDMA based technology, the technology which 2G GSM is based upon. Put it in another way, TDMA is generation 1 cellular phone technology, albeit Link 16 is based upon this made more ECM resistant. Even Link 22 isn't that much any better, still a TDMA system. In commercial terms, these are dinosaurs.
 
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Re: New J-10 Thread III

telecommunications gap? you must be joking. i live in Australia and I can't use my mobile in tunnels, underground carpark, elevators, and even one storey buildings where there isnt a window close by. My visits to China, when using same mobile but buying a one off mobile credit sim. I could use it in buildings, undergrounds carparks, elevators anywhere basically. It is well known that China mobile telecommunications are highly developed, when telecommuncation infrastructure was in it beginnings China poured more resources into mobile then landline. And it is evident when you go to China, their landline isn't as mature as their mobile. Its cheaper to make calls on mobile then on landline, and support for mobile telecommunications is greater then landline. It shows too, on the sheer number of mobile owned per person in China. With simply migrant workers, farmers, and even poor slums having one in their hands. Already mentioned, domestic Chinese company Huawei wasn't even considered a serious company several years ago and now look at their position ranked 4th in the world by the 3/4 of end of 2009.
 
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