Thoughts on Shanghai

shen

shen

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I'm also from Shanghai. What I don't like about Shanghai is that most native Shanghainese have cushy secure jobs that provide for a comfortable middle class living. So there are far less entrepreneurial spirit in Shanghai compare to middle sized Chinese cities I've visited, or even compare to more dynamic large cities such as Shenzhen. Culturally it is not as interesting as Beijing. I just don't like living there.
 
shen

shen

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vesicles said:
One complaint though. What the heck is going on with the bathrooms in those hotels??? All the hotels that I have been to this past 2 times that I was in China (2012 and 2014) all have completely transparent bathrooms!!! I am not talking about having a little window or a glass door. NO No No! I am talking about all the walls of the bathrooms being glass. So no matter where you sit in the hotel room, you would have a complete view of the entire bathroom, the sink, toilet, the tub and all!?!?!? The hotel we stayed at in Beijing a couple weeks ago is even more extreme. They actually decided NOT to have a door for their bathrooms. I mean, what the heck??? It's less of a problem for a couple, but it would become very inconvenient for a family with kids to stay in such hotel. even though we all had our own rooms, it was till kind of weird taking a shower in a glass-walled bathroom... It was kind of nice that I can continue watching TV while sitting on the toilet... Is this a new trend?
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love hotels. very common in many Chinese cities. most young people don't have their own place until they marry. living with parents in apartments don't provide much privacy. plus prostitution is rampant in many places.
 
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solarz

solarz

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shen said:
I'm also from Shanghai. What I don't like about Shanghai is that most native Shanghainese have cushy secure jobs that provide for a comfortable middle class living. So there are far less entrepreneurial spirit in Shanghai compare to middle sized Chinese cities I've visited, or even compare to more dynamic large cities such as Shenzhen. Culturally it is not as interesting as Beijing. I just don't like living there.
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Well, entrepreneurial spirit is not inherently a good thing, and secure jobs create a stable middle class.

As for the culture, sure it doesn't have the Forbidden City and Great Wall of Beijing, but with the advent of high-speed trains, you can visit cities like Hangzhou, Suzhou, and Nanjing and be home in time for supper.
 
solarz

solarz

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Jura said:
thanks, just asking because ... I don't know even why, but I thought you were Polish :)
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That's interesting because it reinforces my point. "Communism" is not this monolithic political entity. Communism in Eastern Europe and USSR was quite different from the communism in China. When people label something as "communist", people with different backgrounds will interpret the meaning differently. Just as you thought I was referring to Eastern Europe communism when I was really referring to Chinese communism.
 
Jura The idiot

Jura The idiot

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solarz said:
That's interesting because it reinforces my point. "Communism" is not this monolithic political entity. Communism in Eastern Europe and USSR was quite different from the communism in China. When people label something as "communist", people with different backgrounds will interpret the meaning differently. Just as you thought I was referring to Eastern Europe communism when I was really referring to Chinese communism.
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wait (before talking about what I thought LOL) ... so you had lived in China until the age of ... 7? 8? since you said

I was born in Shanghai in 1981, and left it in 1989.
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first to do the math :)
 
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