The War in the Ukraine

tankphobia said:

Antonovsky bridge is finally destroyed, maybe demo charges involved?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1590988573896867840

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If it really is confirmed that the Russians have completely retreated their troops to the left bank of the Dnieper (which I don't really believe only if for some reason they decided to advance the crossing and left equipment on the bank destroying them so they wouldn't have to cross the river with them and lighten the load that would be transported leaving more space for more sensitive military use materials), this destruction was probably caused by detonation by the retreating Russians themselves. Or of course, Ukraine managed to destroy with the last attack at the crossing point as disclosed in the previous pages, let's wait for more evidence, but it was one of the options.

SolarWarden said:

It's getting really ugly for retreating Russian forces they are getting annihilated at the crossing.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1590874142693158912

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Even if the Russians had withdrawn air defense from the river crossing area, still air cover could have been done with fighter jets, I highly doubt that they did not at least employ fighter jets to protect the columns during the crossing, which no it would be a totally permissive environment for Ukraine's fighter jets and UAV/UCAVs

According to Russian sources, the withdrawal of Russian forces from Kherson began long before Surovikin officially announced it. In the last two days there has not been much to withdraw from Kherson.

Again according to Russian sources, the Russians blew up the Antonov Bridge.

Ukrainian propaganda as Surovikin warned rode the wave and spewed fake news as usual.

With the withdrawal from Kherson Russia is basically finished (ie: defeated) in Ukraine. The only case in which Russia could win the war now is if Russia is ruled by a new leadership that is actually willing to kill Ukrainians which is highly unlikely to happen because Putin's popularity is quite high.

There is no such thing as a clean invasion without crime, war itself is a crime because you are invading someone's land and killing them, war is a life or death situation you either go big or go home.
Putin ordered his military to preserve the lives of the enemy and to hold back against them while invading them, that is the most rediculous decision I have ever seen.

When you wage war you have to be a Genghis Khan. your priority should be to spread death and distruction in your enemies cities in the shortest period while giving them a way to surrender and retreat so that the enemy has the option to spare their own lives.

A lot of generals were replaced and blamed for the failures of the Russian military, if Russia's commander in chief didn't have as much authority as he does, he would have been the first one to be replaced for poor military dicisions.

One week after the war started when the advance was slowing the Russian military should have been ordered to reduce western and central Ukraine to ash, Kiev should have been completely carpet bombed and razed to the ground, not a single building should have been left standing in Kiev or Lvov or any other central or western Ukrainian city, the civilians in Kiev were already running away on mass because they thought that is what was about to happen and that the Russians would just bomb everything and blitz through Ukraine. They didn't think the Russians would actually be stupid enough to hold back and not carpet bomb everything.

you had such a good opportunity to destroy Ukraine when the Ukrainian military was caught off guard because they didn't belive an invasion was about to happen and the civilians where running away yet you decided to throw it away.

obj 705A said:

With the withdrawal from Kherson Russia is basically finished (ie: defeated) in Ukraine. The only case in which Russia could win the war now is if Russia is ruled by a new leadership that is actually willing to kill Ukrainians which is highly unlikely to happen because Putin's popularity is quite high.

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It's the opposite. Russia is attacking civilians right now because they can't use their cruise missiles and other military toys against actual meaningful military targets. We have all seen the inaccuracy of Russian artillery fire.
But as long resources are getting wasted because of a pitiful revenge mind set, Russia isn't going to win this war.

The latest from Rybar:

Nikolaev-Kherson direction
situation as of 13.00 November 11, 2022

The Russian Ministry of Defense officially announced the completion of the withdrawal of the group of troops of the Russian Armed Forces from the right bank of the Dnieper: the last equipment and personnel completed the transfer at 5 am. According to military correspondent Alexander Sladkov , over 20 thousand personnel and 3.5 thousand pieces of equipment were withdrawn.

The Russian Defense Ministry says that not a single piece of military equipment and weapons was left on the right bank of the Dnieper. Apparently, reports from the field were submitted this way, because there are enough personnel with captured equipment. Another question is that this equipment could be out of order for a long time , and its evacuation seemed inappropriate.

Thanks to the competent actions of air defense systems and engineering units, it was possible to slow down the advance of enemy troops and protect their own units during the march and crossing.

Troops to the last assisted in the evacuation of civilians. The crossings were hit by 5 massive strikes with HIMARS rockets, Russian air defense shot down 28 shells, and 5 more were deflected from targets by means of electronic warfare.

Two tanks, two self-propelled artillery mounts, three armored combat vehicles, and more than twenty Ukrainian servicemen were blown up in the minefields . Three 155-mm M777 towed howitzers, two infantry fighting vehicles and three enemy pickup trucks were destroyed by Lancet loitering ammunition and MLRS fire .

Russian artillery and air strikes, the use of mines and explosive barriers stopped Ukrainian units 30-40 km from the area of crossings across the Dnieper. We plotted this radius on the map and noted which settlements are already under the control of Ukrainian troops.

Throughout the withdrawal operation, a wide network of informers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the Security Service of Ukraine, in a hurry to get "pardon", transmitted data on the routes of transfer and the location of Russian military personnel.

As part of the formations advancing on Kherson, there are units of the 28th, 60th, 61st and 63rd ombr of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, Polish mercenaries, as well as militants of the Sheikh Mansur battalion .





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obj 705A said:

With the withdrawal from Kherson Russia is basically finished (ie: defeated) in Ukraine. The only case in which Russia could win the war now is if Russia is ruled by a new leadership that is actually willing to kill Ukrainians which is highly unlikely to happen because Putin's popularity is quite high.

There is no such thing as a clean invasion without crime, war itself is a crime because you are invading someone's land and killing them, war is a life or death situation you either go big or go home.
Putin ordered his military to preserve the lives of the enemy and to hold back against them while invading them, that is the most rediculous decision I have ever seen.

When you wage war you have to be a Genghis Khan. your priority should be to spread death and distruction in your enemies cities in the shortest period while giving them a way to surrender and retreat so that the enemy has the option to spare their own lives.

A lot of generals were replaced and blamed for the failures of the Russian military, if Russia's commander in chief didn't have as much authority as he does, he would have been the first one to be replaced for poor military dicisions.

One week after the war started when the advance was slowing the Russian military should have been ordered to reduce western and central Ukraine to ash, Kiev should have been completely carpet bombed and razed to the ground, not a single building should have been left standing in Kiev or Lvov or any other central or western Ukrainian city, the civilians in Kiev were already running away on mass because they thought that is what was about to happen and that the Russians would just bomb everything and blitz through Ukraine. They didn't think the Russians would actually be stupid enough to hold back and not carpet bomb everything.

you had such a good opportunity to destroy Ukraine when the Ukrainian military was caught off guard because they didn't belive an invasion was about to happen and the civilians where running away yet you decided to throw it away.

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Honestly, i couldn't see Russia winning this war without the use of Nuclear Weapons, and from the looks of it, nuclear weapons seems the only choice for Russia to turn the tide

Russian Defence Ministry report on the progress of the special military operation in Ukraine (11 November 2022):

In Kherson direction, today, at 05.00 am (Moscow time), units of the Russian forces finished their redeployment to the left bank of Dnepr river.

◽️ No hardware or armament has been left on the right bank.

◽️ All the Russian servicemen have redeployed to the left bank of Dnepr.

◽️ Units and formations of the Russian Armed Forces have taken defence lines and positions, preliminarily prepared in engineering terms.

◽️ Casualties in personnel, armament, hardware, and material means have been prevented.

◽️ All the civilians, who have expressed their desire to abandon the right-bank part of Kherson region, have been assisted in evacuation.

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The Antonovsky Road and Rail bridges were blown up by Russian sappers:

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Lancet strike:

RottenPanzer said:

Honestly, i couldn't see Russia winning this war without the use of Nuclear Weapons, and from the looks of it, nuclear weapons seems the only choice for Russia to turn the tide

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Blowing the damn bridges would help a lot, trying to empty the bath when the water flow in is madness... until there it will be an eternal moving line. Old ICBM first stage with a FOAB on top would be a nice weapon without the use of nuclear weapon. Sad that a weapon like this don't exist. Would throw it at least 1000 km.

obj 705A said:

With the withdrawal from Kherson Russia is basically finished (ie: defeated) in Ukraine. The only case in which Russia could win the war now is if Russia is ruled by a new leadership that is actually willing to kill Ukrainians which is highly unlikely to happen because Putin's popularity is quite high.

There is no such thing as a clean invasion without crime, war itself is a crime because you are invading someone's land and killing them, war is a life or death situation you either go big or go home.
Putin ordered his military to preserve the lives of the enemy and to hold back against them while invading them, that is the most rediculous decision I have ever seen.

When you wage war you have to be a Genghis Khan. your priority should be to spread death and distruction in your enemies cities in the shortest period while giving them a way to surrender and retreat so that the enemy has the option to spare their own lives.

A lot of generals were replaced and blamed for the failures of the Russian military, if Russia's commander in chief didn't have as much authority as he does, he would have been the first one to be replaced for poor military dicisions.

One week after the war started when the advance was slowing the Russian military should have been ordered to reduce western and central Ukraine to ash, Kiev should have been completely carpet bombed and razed to the ground, not a single building should have been left standing in Kiev or Lvov or any other central or western Ukrainian city, the civilians in Kiev were already running away on mass because they thought that is what was about to happen and that the Russians would just bomb everything and blitz through Ukraine. They didn't think the Russians would actually be stupid enough to hold back and not carpet bomb everything.

you had such a good opportunity to destroy Ukraine when the Ukrainian military was caught off guard because they didn't belive an invasion was about to happen and the civilians where running away yet you decided to throw it away.

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100% this.

If Russians can't beat Ukrainians they are no longer a relevant military power, they get placed below Iran and North Korea.

Pmichael said:

It's the opposite. Russia is attacking civilians right now because they can't use their cruise missiles and other military toys against actual meaningful military targets. We have all seen the inaccuracy of Russian artillery fire.
But as long resources are getting wasted because of a pitiful revenge mind set, Russia isn't going to win this war.

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Posts like this are the reason why Russia has fought this war wrong. Westerners will accuse you of being war criminals no matter how gently you treat the Ukrainians. May as well give them something real to complain about.

Atomicfrog said:

Blowing the damn bridges would help a lot, trying to empty the bath when the water flow in is madness... until there it will be an eternal moving line. Old ICBM first stage with a FOAB on top would be a nice weapon without the use of nuclear weapon. Sad that a weapon like this don't exist. Would throw it at least 1000 km.

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Wouldn't the claims of Russia buying Iranian missiles could certainly fill that role?