The War in the Ukraine

Stealthflanker

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At this point, what's the difference between them and cruise missiles?

None. well even those smaller drones flying with explosive payload and guided by INS+GPS can be classified as cruise missile. Their signature is not even that different in generalized manner.

Well i did myself a compilation of result of some RCS modeling that i did for some stuff way back and well you can perhaps draw a line between Cruise missile, Large UCAV (e.g TB-2) and conventional manned aircraft.

Median Frontal RCS comparisons.png

You can probably start classifying target at 0.2 sqm as Cruise missile type, 0.4 sqm is UCAV's (tho stealthy UCAV one can hit less than that) and conventional manned aircraft is something at 1 Sqm.
 

sheogorath

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In theory, these could stay over the battlefield waiting for valuable target of oportunity to show up and attack.

You can't do that with a proper cruise missile
 

memfisa

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Russia has 4 times the man power of Ukraine. It was only a matter of time. Ukraine can only manage if Ukraine mobilizes and Russia does not mobilize. Once Russia mobilizes, it's all over.

Ukraine has mobilized 7 times. Are they going to round up their babushkas next? I don't think people will be too impressed about their grandmothers being sent to the front lines.

They say there could be a large offensive into northern Kiev region from Belarus. Here there are many ethnic Belarussians so it could be favorable for Belarus invasion.

This is what I'm waiting for, ive been expecting Belarus to become involved for months. This is the one single move thats could send the UAF into complete disarray. They are stretched thin as it is, opening a second or even third front and it's going to take divine intervention to save them.

But of course we cant forget puty doesnt want to damage ukraine.. so we wont see much happen other than russia pulling back further and further until the entire Western Military district and crimea are being pounded daily then he surrenders to zelensky
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memfisa

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Maybe if Putin negotiates with these lunatics, they won't blow up the Kremlin? Extra peaceful gardening points if Erdogan mediates the negotiations

Maybe it's time to put the cruise missiles away, hopefully the terrorist attacks might stop, maybe? Actually if I was Putin I would totally be giving serious thought to complete unilateral disarmament as a way to win the war

I'd love to see who is advising Putin. I'm picturing a schmegel from lord of the rings
 

Soldier30

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Details about the French VAB armored vehicle of the Ukrainian army. The armored vehicle was developed by Renault and Savier in 1976 and was produced in different versions. The VAB 4x4 version armed with a 12.7 mm M2 Browning machine gun was delivered to Ukraine. VAB armor provides protection only from 7.62 mm bullets, for which the car has been repeatedly criticized. There was also a weak protection against mines. The crew of the car is 2 people, the landing force is 10 people. Armored vehicle engine power - 300 hp The maximum speed on the highway is 110 km / h. Fuel range is about 1000 km. The armored car in various modifications is in service with about 15 countries.


Powerful defensive lines with the help of engineering equipment are created by the Russian PMC Wagner in Ukraine. Engineering units of PMC Wagner installed concrete tetrahedrons, anti-tank gouges, ditches and trenches were dug. Firing positions for infantry and equipment were created, and mining of the territory was probably carried out on the approaches to the defense line.


The Ukrainian army began to use the English counter-battery system MAMBA ARTHUR. It was reported that the MAMBA radar was supplied from England, but the experts found out that this is a similar Swedish ARTHUR radar of modification "A". The MAMBA ARTHUR radar is a mobile radar designed to determine the location of firing installations in the direction of their firing. The detection range of firing positions of 82-mm mortars is 20 km, of 120-mm mortars - up to 35 km, MLRS - up to 45 km, the accuracy of determining coordinates - up to 25 m, the system fixes - up to 100 targets per minute. Data on priority targets are transmitted to the control point in automatic or semi-automatic mode. To expand the search area, a network of four radars can be created. The radar is placed on the chassis of the Bv206 all-terrain vehicle. The cost of the ARTHUR radar, 5 million dollars.


Fight in Ukraine. Russian units, noticing a column of Ukrainian armored vehicles and firing points near the forest belt, aimed several tanks at them. UAV operators comment and correct the fire of tanks.

 
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