The War in the Ukraine

ougoah

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So, now are all proper bridges and viaducts are supposed to survive 18-wheelers filled with explosives?. Color me doubtful

That fact that the span right next to explosion didn't collapse or warp to the point of unusability seems to have worked pretty well, for a "cheap" bridge.

The cheapness is in the build design used. It doesn't have much effect on functionality in most circumstances except in design limit states pertaining to corrosion resistance and other maintenance factors.

It is a very cheap build. That does NOT mean it works less well or withstands an explosion less well (actually this depends but not the intended purpose of design). It is not comparable to prestressed concrete sections and reinforced girder designs. Not comparable in cost and not comparable in longevity. But this is perhaps the point also. It is built in a and for a strategically important setting. That certainly weighs in on design decisions when they planned the bridge and settled on a design. At least it should.

So either the contractors just cheaped out for the sake of cheaping out (note that this does NOT have anything to do with blast resistance or planning for blast resistance as some fanboys would no doubt begin talking about now despite having no knowledge in this field). Or it could have been done intentionally to save money because they did a risk assessment and decided to go cheap because just in case the Ukrainians/NATO destroy it or whatever. Both designs have their advantages and disadvantages re utility and re replacing sections.
 

tankphobia

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There are reports that Russia is hitting Kiev with missiles, at least 4 this morning, but it doesn't sound like it hit critical infrastructure.
I just don't understand Russia's aim here, lobing a few cruise missiles/UAVs at Odessa or Kyiv is not going to achieve much in their war aim, why aim for anything other than critical infrastructure?
 

Temstar

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I just don't understand Russia's aim here, lobing a few cruise missiles/UAVs at Odessa or Kyiv is not going to achieve much in their war aim, why aim for anything other than critical infrastructure?
Unless they are trying to kill someone in particular?

There are reports that there are also power outages in Lviv and it may have been hit.
If true it's interesting that Russians have focused on targeting power network as of late, hitting transformers stations particularly. Around this time the counterattack have slowed down so I wonder if the two are related.
 

BlackWindMnt

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Unless they are trying to kill someone in particular?

There are reports that there are also power outages in Lviv and it may have been hit.
If true it's interesting that Russians have focused on targeting power network as of late, hitting transformers stations particularly. Around this time the counterattack have slowed down so I wonder if the two are related.
Weren't the Ukrainians exporting energy to Europe, seems like Russia is really out to starve Europe of energy and heat this winter.
To the point Ukraine and Europe will have to choose either help each other or go at it alone and not longer export and import energy from each other.
 

Tam

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Unless they are trying to kill someone in particular?

There are reports that there are also power outages in Lviv and it may have been hit.
If true it's interesting that Russians have focused on targeting power network as of late, hitting transformers stations particularly. Around this time the counterattack have slowed down so I wonder if the two are related.

Obviously because the trains run on the electric infrastructure. No juice no move no logistics no reinforcement.

The drones also typically target communications and command posts, ammo and fuel depots, barracks and training centers. Brigade HQ are targeted too.
 

FairAndUnbiased

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