The War in the Ukraine

tankphobia

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The war is from over and it looks like it will be a war even if at low intensity for years to come, though for a half year to a year to come it will be very intense.
The problem with this line of thinking is that it is not a decision that can be made by Russia. If Ukraine would continue to conduct high tempo operation the Russians cannot just declare it low tempo and call it a day.
 

Weaasel

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The problem with this line of thinking is that it is not a decision that can be made by Russia. If Ukraine would continue to conduct high tempo operation the Russians cannot just declare it low tempo and call it a day.
That is just a prediction that I am making based on Russia's resources vis a vis Ukraine and given the partial mobilization that has taken place in Russia. I do not believe that Ukraine's allies will be willing to make as great a commitment to Ukraine anything as closely as Russia is willing to make. My prediction is that Russia will commit much manpower and materiel resources in such a way as to conventionally eventually overwhelm Ukrainian troops in Donbass and other parts of Ukraine that it has claimed. Then it will and also concurrently strongly reinforce these locations and probably even harass Ukrainian forces elsewhere along the Russian-Ukrainian border. Ukraine will have difficulty coping in terms of personnel and materiel to be able to undertake significant major offensives, but will be able to attack various points on Russian defences.
 

plawolf

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The problem with this line of thinking is that it is not a decision that can be made by Russia. If Ukraine would continue to conduct high tempo operation the Russians cannot just declare it low tempo and call it a day.

Actually yes the Russians can. Because they enjoy firepower dominance. That dominance is greatly mitigated when the Ukrainians are playing defence and hunkered down in trenches and cities due to lack of investment in PGMs by the Russians. But when on the offensive, the Ukrainians need to come out of cover and amass in numbers.

The Ukrainians must be paying a very high price in lives and equipment to conduct their large scale offensive operations against the Russians. Losses that are simply unsustainable.

The Russians can just keep doing what they have been and the Ukrainians will run out of blood long before the Russians run out of land to yield.
 

Pmichael

Junior Member
Russia still hasn't targeted power plants, water treatement stations, dams, bridges decision making centers, etc. It's critical infrastructure formed by a small number of fixed targets. Whatever air defences and detection means Ukraine has wont stop a Kinzhal. Besides, they don't need to be worried about being labeled as war criminals because they already are. This tells me they're not really desperate yet. Let's wait and see.

they can’t accurately hit targets that’s the recurring theme of this war. They are also incapable of attacking and neutralizing military targets like air bases or artillery positions
 

Atomicfrog

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The problem with this line of thinking is that it is not a decision that can be made by Russia. If Ukraine would continue to conduct high tempo operation the Russians cannot just declare it low tempo and call it a day.
It's a war between zealots leaders against bureaucrats leaders... Everything look so long to take place in Russia that they cannot decide fast enough when there's a change of tempo. Ukraine just changed tactics from digging themselves in and resisting to fast zerg rush. The time that the information get into bureaucrats hands and come back it's just over. I'm not even sure that the answer have gone back to the russians front lines.
 
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sheogorath

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The Ukrainians are fighting for their own land, the Russians are on foreign soil. The fighting morale is correspondingly different.

It can be argued the same thing for the Russians in the sense that they are fighting a balkanization attempt by the US.

The Ukrainians must be paying a very high price in lives and equipment to conduct their large scale offensive operations against the Russians. Losses that are simply unsustainable.

And the losses in the south are even worse, particularly relative to the lack of results. Also for this push on Lyman, they had to weaken their defenses on Soledar-Bakhmut, where the Mercs inch forward a bit every day.
 
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