The War in the Ukraine

Abominable

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I wonder how many are deployed. I still don't suspect it's too many. I think if they had a full battery operating, they would show more. The Ukrainian Army has no problems with showing off all the weapons they are getting. Why not? It is stroking the Western ego and getting them to send more and more.



This is my assumption, they are basically doing conversion training. So you don't need to know all the basics of bearings, centre of arc, elevation, types of fire missions, aiming points, etc. etc. Basically you are just learning to put in the bearing and elevation (which is digital on the M777), you don't even need to turn the gears (also automatic), just check the sight and fire. I'm assuming they are also learning the bare minimum maintenance procedures.



I thought about that, but even if they do, it'd be minimal. Maybe an NCO here or there for troubleshooting. The actual gunline crew is 7, most of these guys are loading once the gun is put into action. Plus, assuming they are sending trained artillerymen, then these guys already know most of what they are doing. Command Post maybe, since there is no way they can integrate the NATO software on such a short basis, and I highly doubt that NATO/USA is handing over their data on Excalibur and Copperhead to some random Ukrainian programmer to build new (or integrate) firing solution software (as described earlier in the thread)
I think your assumption is a bit optimistic....
(watch till the end).
 

manqiangrexue

Brigadier
The Ukrainians have reportedly crossed to the east of the Severy Donets on the Kharkov front, according to Southfront. Southfront is admitting that this Vovchansk is already within artillery range and UFA are getting closer every day. The RF are barely fighting, just running away. Once Vovchansk has been blown to smithereens, the RF grouping at Izyum will he cut off, and the entire Donbass Russian attack collapses.

IMO this is a pretty good sign Putin is throwing in the towel soon. He has realized the whole thing was a huge mistake and his only chance depends on crawling back to the West to beg for mercy/forgiveness.
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And how soon would you say this should happen, so we can mark it down on the calendar to laugh at you for being wrong again?
 
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Yommie

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Russian MOD briefing


a base seized by Russians and documents they found


Tu-95MS cruise missile carrier spotted over Ukraine


Ukraine's only oil refinery again bombed by cruise missiles for the bazillionth time


captured Ukrainian soldiers near Lyman


captured hardware near Izyum, including more NLAWs

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Sheleah

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The Russians did what was needed but they got discovered by a superieur foe and got wiped out. Not everyday we see almost 2 battalions worth of merchandised equipment destroyed in one go.

Modern warfare is scary. We are lucky they didn't have smartphones and social media during desert storm...
The Russians continue to establish bridgeheads on the river... And although one particular Ukrainian attack is used by propaganda to sell the hoax that the Ukraine is winning, the war continues, and the Russians continúe....

 

Maikeru

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Here, more proof of that failed rivercrossing:

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You can see the holes the arty caused on the decks of the pontoon bridges:

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Is that an 'O' painted on the glacis of the tank that's neatly parked on the remaining bit of pontoon in the first picture?
 

Yommie

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The Russians continue to establish bridgeheads on the river... And although one particular Ukrainian attack is used by propaganda to sell the hoax that the Ukraine is winning, the war continues, and the Russians continúe....


Light tanks like BTR-82A and BMD-4M don't need bridge to cross a river. These are amphibious and pack bigger punches than main battle tanks because of ATGM launchers.
 
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