The War in the Ukraine

Atomicfrog

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Something related to Snake Island? A colonel flying helicopter himself?
Well, Ukraine got Javelins and Stingers and distributed them like candy, maybe they give ranks like candy too?

Joke appart... maybe they lost most of their pilots already and have to use whatever troop they have left to fill the gap. They cannot give helicopters to civilians like ak-47 for sure. If they rely on their chain of command to do the dirty work, the war cannot drag for long.
 

enroger

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I didn't go line by line, but apart from the very start the 2 articles seems to be very different.

Yeah, that article seems to be another speech from the same forum 中国国际金融30人论坛. This article is less politically charged and I can agree with some of the view points, Gao's article is very different.... If you tell me some redditor wrote it I would believe it, unfortunately it was an actual former Chinese diplomat....
 

gadgetcool5

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The Ukrainians have reportedly crossed to the east of the Severy Donets on the Kharkov front, according to Southfront. Southfront is admitting that this Vovchansk is already within artillery range and UFA are getting closer every day. The RF are barely fighting, just running away. Once Vovchansk has been blown to smithereens, the RF grouping at Izyum will he cut off, and the entire Donbass Russian attack collapses.

IMO this is a pretty good sign Putin is throwing in the towel soon. He has realized the whole thing was a huge mistake and his only chance depends on crawling back to the West to beg for mercy/forgiveness.
 

Janiz

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A Ukrainian has posted on twitter claiming he took part in the "battle", along with his paypal for "donations". Judge for yourself if you think it's credible.
It's been confirmed already that's the same guy who had his profile on VK. Not to mention that it was confirmed already by various reliable Russian telegram accounts and even Strelkov. It's not fake. Just let the sleeping dogs lie because I try not to post unconfirmed info here (unlike many others). You can believe it or not. There are still people out there that believe that Earth is flat but if you have something credible to deny it post it. Otherwise - stop derailing the thread with your opinions.
 

Abominable

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It's been confirmed already that's the same guy who had his profile on VK. Not to mention that it was confirmed already by various reliable Russian telegram accounts and even Strelkov. It's not fake. Just let the sleeping dogs lie because I try not to post unformed info here (unlike many others).
The guy is clearly a scammer. He's making up a story to get paypal donations from gullible westerners. Heavy aerial bombardment from the Ukrainian air force? Thousands of dead Russians yet not a single body on the battlefield? And in the middle of this battle he has time to use microsoft paint to annotate a picture for his twitter audience? Are you the scammer by any chance?

It hasn't been "confirmed" by anyone, stop making things up. The NATO cope must be getting bad if you're resorting to eastern European scammers to justify the "Ukraine is winning" narrative.
 

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Oh you can feel the excitement mount! But everybody needs to calm dowm

It would be great if everything could be verified immediately and posted. Sadly it cannot and much will by unverified.
That has to be recognised and posted (sensibly) as such, which means recognising that something is only claimed, by either side and not automatically to be regarded as true.

No twitter report or thirty second clip or drone shot can be produced as truth. All we can do is use them as pieces in a jigsaw and hope that over time a picture that seems true eventually emerges.

Arguing over who's belief, interpretation or simple wish, is truth is pointless and waste of forum space
So don't do it!
 

Abominable

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If this doesn't look like winning then I don't know what:


But of course, this could all be fake photoshopped propaganda...
I've not seen anyone claim they are photoshopped. The question is who they belong to.

Even if it is real, it's not because of actions of a guy who's posting on twitter asking for paypal donations.
 

sequ

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We literally got the guy who set up the ambush posting on twitter with his face and a screenshot of his collected intel but people still have the need to scrutinize after we've seen the horrible performance of the Russians on a daily basis since the start of the war.

Sure go ahead and believe it's a Ukrainian mechanized unit that got blown to pieces... If that makes you sleep better at night :D

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SampanViking

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If this doesn't look like winning then I don't know what:


But of course, this could all be fake photoshopped propaganda...
Very clearly there has been a major battle (or a series of clashes over time) which has created wrecks. Some look far from new.
Quite a lot of the vehicles look to be undamaged and we only have the posters word for it that they are abandoned.
Many of them look neatly parked to my eyes.
Neither does the site look corpse strewn, which you would expect in the aftermath of the type of massacre that the poster is selling.

So who controls the site?
The fact that the Ukraine is posting aerial drone shots and have no troops on the ground, rather suggests that it is still in Russian hands.
 
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