The War in the Ukraine
- Thread starter SampanViking
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China is already helping Ukraine by staying neutral and not selling weapons to either party. An alternative posture China could take is that of the Iran-Iraq War where China's position to to stay neutral but sell weapons to both sides, on one occasion (in)famously hosting the reps from each country in the same hotel building.
If China took the "stay neutral but sell weapons to both side" position which side do you imagine would have access to more Chinese weapon?
success is when you neutralized them. not let them withdraw. this is second time Russian withdrew successfully. first was Kiev.
His request would probably find more reception in the East if his troops wouldn't go in dishing out collective punishments wherever they enter a captured town or city.
This would be like the americans and south koreans asking for support of the north korean civilians after commiting the Sinchon Massacre
Should have thought about that one when you decided to sanction a chinese company over Motor Sich.
It's almost as if Israel values more not having more russian high-end equipment in Syrian and Iranian hands over whatever Ukraine has to offer.
I'm usually wary of hacking leaks because most often than not, it turns out be a whole load of nothing or fake stuff.
Its all fun and games for the EU until shit gets real, I guess
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Russia knew of the build up. They were caught in two minds of what to do about it. Whether to retreat earlier than they did, or to quickly and greatly reinforce their positions. They most likely hedged too long. Hindsight is 20/20, but they should have either retreated earlier than they did, or they SHOULD have kept much larger number of personnel and materiel than they did in Kupyansk and Izium.
They went off with this operation with 200k forces, withdrew and left 80k, call in 300k reservists, putin passed a bill for 150k more active duty troops to add to the current 1 million number
Zelensky literally asked the U.S. yesterday or two days ago that they can make Ukraine a testing center for their long range strategic weapons which sounds like even Zelensky doesnt have a winner's mind set that he will win this war.
I am just warning people here before hand that truely believe Ukraine will win to not have their hopes up set too high.
Zelensky literally asked the U.S. yesterday or two days ago that they can make Ukraine a testing center for their long range strategic weapons which sounds like even Zelensky doesnt have a winner's mind set that he will win this war.
I am just warning people here before hand that truely believe Ukraine will win to not have their hopes up set too high.
the other is there is a size difference between the two as well.
Every internet osint mapper already knew this well before hand. In fact one channel mentioned about hundreds of tanks and vehicles being hid underground in Kharkhiv.
From the moment the war started back in Feb, as long as NATO does not send in large number of troops with NATO gear, there was never any doubt that Russia will win this war. Russia has been very careful to minimize the cost of the war and the casualties because they want to outlast the ones that are backing Ukraine. The goal is not just to win in Ukraine.
As to the politicians in Ukraine, including Zelensky, the decision is not really up to them. They must look back at the people holding their leashes for instructions. The goal for him and others like him is just to prolong this as long as possible. The longer the war goes on, the more money will flow from the West to Ukraine to keep the war going. In turn, part of this will flow to their bank accounts. The moment they called off the negotiation with Russia back in March means that it is already a foregone conclusion that at a minimum, Ukraine will be left as a none viable country after this is all said and done.
For anyone suggesting Russia is playing a smart game and all the withdrawals were "successful", how on earth did they become the largest heavy equipment supplier of the UKR army? Like, it's ridiculous how much intact equipment the RU army left behind for UKR to recover and use themselves.
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