The War in the Ukraine

Anlsvrthng

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However, if load exceeds demand, the reverse EMF of the entire grid load starts dragging back the turbines. The turbines do not like to be dragged back due to angular momentum and because the driving force like steam or water is still pushing. This causes significant mechanical stress on the turbines. If not stopped, it will distort the turbines, which leads to rotor imbalance, and destroys them. To prevent this from happening, you need to do 2 things:

1. stop the overload condition by disconnecting load from the generator.
2. stop the generator from being held back by disconnecting the generator itself.
PRoblem is the synchron of the generators.

As the weakest,lightest generators fall out of synchron they start to consume electricity instead of pushing into the system, and they heat over and destroy themselves.

Means if a generator start to slow down the protection disconnect it from the network, to protect it.


If there is a full blackout afterwards they have to choose a plant, that will start again the network, giving the synchonouse AC for the other generators.
 

SampanViking

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So as I see it, the Ukrainian forces in the Kharkov counter offensives have not yet fought a major battle and the gains of the last few days were achieved through Russian forces withdrawing rather than winning an offensive action and actively conquering them.

I also understand that the Russian forces have made no further withdraw today and that any "advances" made by Ukrainian forces today were only in relation to places that the Russians left over the last couple of days.

So all in all, this satisfies the clear definition of a Russian tactical retreat. Whether you think such a retreat was valid or necessary is another matter.

I also note that over the last few days, where the Russians have been dug in and resisted, such as at Lyman, the Ukrainian assaults were repeatedly defeated and repelled.

Regarding the strikes against the Ukrainian Power grid this evening. While power may have been restored to a degree across the Ukrainian power grid, very clearly a large percentage of the countries generating capacity has been destroyed today and this will not be restored any time soon. Whether or not the remaining capacity is sufficient to provide for the Ukraine's needs, we shall find out soon enough. It as also a fair assumption that other generator plants will be targeted over the course of the next few days.
 

Dragon of War

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So as I see it, the Ukrainian forces in the Kharkov counter offensives have not yet fought a major battle and the gains of the last few days were achieved through Russian forces withdrawing rather than winning an offensive action and actively conquering them.

I also understand that the Russian forces have made no further withdraw today and that any "advances" made by Ukrainian forces today were only in relation to places that the Russians left over the last couple of days.

So all in all, this satisfies the clear definition of a Russian tactical retreat. Whether you think such a retreat was valid or necessary is another matter.

I also note that over the last few days, where the Russians have been dug in and resisted, such as at Lyman, the Ukrainian assaults were repeatedly defeated and repelled.

Regarding the strikes against the Ukrainian Power grid this evening. While power may have been restored to a degree across the Ukrainian power grid, very clearly a large percentage of the countries generating capacity has been destroyed today and this will not be restored any time soon. Whether or not the remaining capacity is sufficient to provide for the Ukraine's needs, we shall find out soon enough. It as also a fair assumption that other generator plants will be targeted over the course of the next few days.

Do you think with the upcoming winter, it'll slow the war down or will one or the other make huge advancements during this time?
 

Anlsvrthng

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Regarding the strikes against the Ukrainian Power grid this evening. While power may have been restored to a degree across the Ukrainian power grid, very clearly a large percentage of the countries generating capacity has been destroyed today and this will not be restored any time soon. Whether or not the remaining capacity is sufficient to provide for the Ukraine's needs, we shall find out soon enough. It as also a fair assumption that other generator plants will be targeted over the course of the next few days.
By the pics they targeted the transformers.

If I know well the CCCP then they installed similar backbone(20/400kV) transformers everywhere.

Means the Russians could fix them fast, and I am quite sure the Ukrainans used up all reserves kept for rainy days.
 
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