escobar
Brigadier
the inability of lot of RU fanboys to see the real state of RU army is amazing.
The War in the Ukraine
- Thread starter SampanViking
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Like I said before the best outcome would be maintaining Sino-Vietnamese style back and forth border wars to keep wearing down the Ukrainian side militarily and economically. If they continue handling things badly all their gains since February could be lost.
Intrepid
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It is very instructive to see the judgment people are capable of. And I admit that I would have expected that the proportions would have been distributed differently. Many refugee Ukrainian women live with their children in my neighbourhood.
Personally, I do believe that this situation is pretty dire, but it's not over by any means. It all really depends on whether Russia can get their shit together and pull enough troops for a counteroffensive, or if they're gonna continue to flail and pretend all is well.
When was this? Was it the time when an Alibaba drone penetrated dozens of KM deep into Crimea and suicided into black sea fleet headquarters? Or was it a Orlan drone tear down with a Nikon camera inside? All I'm saying is that a lot of the pro-ukrainan commentary here actually comes with a source, rather than some conjecture of what they wished the Russia military actually was.
This is in no way disparaging to those who are posting telegram video/pictures and their analysis of course, those are much appreciated. But the endless accusation of bots/brain washed really reminds me that these forums are not that different from Reddit after all when it comes to an emotional topic like this one.
Its a good question to ask! where is the Russian regular army?
Two major offensives launched by the enemy, one highly anticipated and advertised, a larger one tried to put together on the sly but clearly obvious for weeks as was the direction it would be in....?
Its a question that should be troubling NATO planners more than anything else.
Plus if Kherson was largely stopped by local Militia, well doesn't say much for NATO kit and training does it.
Well maybe the Russians Military have said "Niet" and don't want to play anymore and I am sure our resident NAFO contingent will be only too happy to tell you that is the case.
I think it would be an incautious opinion to reach personally, and that the truth is most likely to be very different.
No. That would be the best outcome only if Ukraine was all alone. But with NATO backing it, the US would happily fight Russia down to the last Ukrainian.
In fact it seems you have fallen to the same trap Putin fell as well. The best outcome is very simple indeed, no need to reinvent the wheel:
Everything we've seen so far in this war suggests they'll go for the 2nd option. And will no-one spare a thought for poor Oryx?
Severodonetsk next to be liberated, maybe?
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This reminds me of the WW2 Sino-Japanese War with Russia taking on the unfortunate role of Imperial Japan, just with less war criming.
The Imperial Japanese (Russian) military also took a breakaway region Manchuria (Donbass and Crimea) in a covert action. After consolidating for a few years, the Imperial Japanese (Russian) military decided that it was now or never to take the rest of China (Ukraine). Though the offensive quickly took some territory, it was not decisive, and the Imperial Japanese army ran out of offensive steam after a year or so. While that was going on, they were put under total sanctions by the US, and are running out of oil and machine parts (semiconductors). The total sanctions halted Imperial Japanese (Russian) offensives in the China (Ukraine) theater and they instead went on the offensive against European possessions (European economy). Simultaneously, US and Soviet (NATO) volunteers poured resources into China (Ukraine).
If Russians learned Asian history they would've recognized Imperial Japan's problems and sought to avoid them. Unfortunately most Europeans are allergic to taking lessons from Asian history and do not understand it.
The luck for Russia is that leading edge semiconductors aren't as important as oil and food when it boils down to it, and the US Navy cannot blockade Russia effectively the way it could to Imperial Japan.
Turned into line infantry. It is holding the frontline as a thin layer of force. Just another consequence of trying to invade a 600.000 km^2 country with less than 200,000 men.