The War in the Ukraine

Sheleah

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Confusion in the Russian and Pro Russian units



"For the majority of Russian society, what is happening now on the Kharkov front is a shock. People are whispering, lamenting, scolding military leaders looking for the guilty"


The arrogant, who dared to invade a country thinking it would be a picnic, still do not understand how it is that the Ukrainians have effectively carried out an offensive at various points on the front... The arrogance of believing that they were superior gives them confusion. Poor guys!
 

MrCrazyBoyRavi

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A lot of chess piece moving during this Ukraine counter offensive and possible russian counter counter offensive.
1. Ukraine desperate for some success in ground for PR purpose and to get more arms & money for war.
2. Russia due to lack of manpower, stuck in grinding warfare for months with very little gain in territory.
3. Russia recently purchased undisclosed amount of armed drones from Iran.

I think Russia deliberately allowed Ukraine to move in so swiftly and reclaim a lot of land. It seems like there wasn’t much of a huge resistance from Russian defenders. Russia is also hesitant to blow up bridges to stop Ukrainian reinforcement.

We always talk about drawing up enemy troop beyond their defensive line but Ukrainian general aren’t stupid. AFU won’t take the bait unless they can smell blood in the street. This speed AFU is pushing at North is not sustainable. The more troops Ukraine funnels into the counter strike the better for Russia to deal severe blow to them.

The rear of Ukrainian offensive is always vounerable to Russian airstrike and long range artillary fire. On top of that newly acquired iranian armed drone can come handy. Without heavy equipment and reinforcement, AFU push will lose steam in no time, then it will be easy picking for russian and gradually grind and reclaim the lost land.
 

Sheleah

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The Russian and Pro-Russian Telegram channels do not have much to talk about, there is no good news to give... One of the most active is publishing the videos where the population joyfully receives the Ukrainian troops, after the invaders were driven out

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Also pro-Russians are very upset about silly excuses and so-called "chess games"...



Fortunately for that pro-Russian Twitter, he hasn't had to go through this forum thread, and the "general Winter" excuses... Lol!
 

Janiz

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I think Russia deliberately allowed Ukraine to move in so swiftly and reclaim a lot of land. It seems like there wasn’t much of a huge resistance from Russian defenders. Russia is also hesitant to blow up bridges to stop Ukrainian reinforcement.
Indeed, it looks like it was a deliberate plan which lead "Russian troops to eliminate the concentration of Ukrainian forces in the area".

Good point.
Last time the Ukrainians reached the Russian border near Kharkov, and we know how well that turned out. I don't see why this will end any better.
How it ended? That was around the time that Russian troops were retreating to the borders after failed Kyiv offensive? Well, I think we all know how it turned out.
 

foxmulder

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Another invaders flag falling...



It is not easy for the invaders to lose territory, lose equipment and lose men... While the Russian president and his high command are pretending what they are not in massive military exercises, spending resources that are needed by the troops and volunteers who have been sent to Ukraine... Morale Blow

Wouldn't be surprised by further "goodwill" withdrawals soon


You are living in alternative reality. Russia is intentionally slow. EU is trembling. Whole southern and eastern world losing what ever respect they have left to US+EU.

Even Saudis are openly supporting Russia.

You don't get it.
 

H2O

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Regardless of which side you support or what the true situation is on the battlefield, the Ukrainian leadership made one hell of a geopolitical blunder. If they only aimed for neutrality, this mess could have been avoided. Thousands of families have left and I can't see the nation returning back to the way it was.
 

YVHunter

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This post sums the war in a nut shell. For Ukrainians, this is war. For Russians, it is not. Russians are too spoiled to fight. Unless Ukrainians invade Russian soil, they will not forgo the good life of peace. To date Russians have not introduced a single new military hardware for war. No T-14. No new howitzer. No new IFV. No new helicopter. No new nothing. Production of military hardware is snail paced. This is not a nation at war. This is a nation at peace.

So what needs to happen for Putin to take the gloves off and declare a general mobilization? A total collapse of the Kharkov front?
 
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