The War in the Ukraine

Sheleah

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So, the Ukranians stopped pushing completely in the Kherson?. Got tired of winning in the south?

One of the telegram accounts mentioned Kiev decided to take resources out of what's left of the "victorious" Kherson offensive to Kharkiv, which seems to be the case looking at this map.

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Which in my opinion as an armchair general, seems like a mistake. Yeah, you might have the initiative in Kharkiv right now but you are also WAAAAAAAAAAAAAY more close to Russia, so reinforcements will take far less to get there than than to Kherson and less of strain logistically.

Also, a field day for the RuAF to launch attacks without even crossing the border
When you bring the map and not the analysis and information from the source, and you make your own analysis adjusted to your narrative... That can be called propaganda, Rybar talks about Ukrainian advances, but you misrepresent leaving only the map.... He also says that Russia transfers reserves to the area
 

Biscuits

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I quote from the pro-Russian Telegram channel "Intel Slava Z":

"Zelensky supported Zaluzhny's proposal to suspend the counteroffensive in the south of Ukraine and strengthen the strike on Izium. All free reserves and part of the air defense, from near Kyiv and the Dnieper, are being transferred to Kharkiv, which will become the main military and logistics hub of the Armed Forces of Ukraine," Ukrainian TG channels write.

It is reported that Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine Zaluzhny and the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine warned the office of the President and Zelensky himself that an offensive in two strategic directions could have bad consequences. Due to the large losses in manpower and equipment, there may be a huge shortage of heavy weapons and experienced units. The personnel of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, seeing and knowing all the "underground" (huge losses), will be morally broken if the territorial result is not achieved and retained.

At the same time, there is a huge risk that the Russian army is exhausting parts of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, drawing in and knocking out the most combat-ready units. At the same time, the attempt of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation to go on the counteroffensive with a high degree of probability has a chance of success. The Armed Forces of Ukraine will no longer have reserves to contain the "onslaught" and a complete collapse of the defense will begin, at least in two strategic directions.

All reserves of the Armed Forces of Ukraine are now thrown into the attack so that Ukrainian politicians can achieve their goals at a meeting with donors in the Ramstein format.


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Makes a lot of sense based on what we know about Zalzuhny being the competent one.

The Kherson offensive was terribly conceived to begin with. The East has far better territory due to being mostly forest instead of fields.

From here on, the war may become closer, assuming the Ukraine can contain an eventual Russian attack in the South, which is far from certain.

"leaked" conversations like these should always be taken with a huge grain of salt, but I think this is a case where the leaked content coincides well with what would be Ukraine's best moves. Give up on the flatlands, send troops to reinforce the East. When politicians like Zelensky make the calls, you get blunders like Kherson, but by any indication, the AFU leadership is competent and the move to the East is a competent move.
 

manqiangrexue

Brigadier
I'll say, the fact that Blinken can just waltz into Kiev is indicative that the Russians are not taking this war seriously. The Kiev airport should have been destroyed if not captured on February 25.
Russia can level the airport with Khinzhals right now if they wanted to. They could have done it with Blinkin in the air and he wouldn't know where to land; he'd have to go home. The big question is why don't they want to? All these small discussions about villages going back and forth are meaningless and focus on individual trees while missing the forest. Why does Russia hold back its power? Why doesn't it deal even easy big-bang-for-the-buck blows to Ukraine by taking out its airports with missile strikes from 2,000km away? What does Russia want/gain in doing this? That's how we can gain a real understanding of what's happening.
 

Atomicfrog

Major
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Russia can level the airport with Khinzhals right now if they wanted to. They could have done it with Blinkin in the air and he wouldn't know where to land; he'd have to go home. The big question is why don't they want to? All these small discussions about villages going back and forth are meaningless and focus on individual trees while missing the forest. Why does Russia hold back its power? Why doesn't it deal even easy big-bang-for-the-buck blows to Ukraine by taking out its airports with missile strikes from 2,000km away? What does Russia want/gain in doing this? That's how we can gain a real understanding of what's happening.
Maybe they are destroying Ukrainian equipments and forces so when the time come and push to the Dnieper, cutting all the bridges to the west, the south front will be safe because Ukraine will not have anything to throw at them ? Ukrainian forces have still a lot of steam or blood that they can lose.
 

tankphobia

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Russia can level the airport with Khinzhals right now if they wanted to. They could have done it with Blinkin in the air and he wouldn't know where to land; he'd have to go home. The big question is why don't they want to? All these small discussions about villages going back and forth are meaningless and focus on individual trees while missing the forest. Why does Russia hold back its power? Why doesn't it deal even easy big-bang-for-the-buck blows to Ukraine by taking out its airports with missile strikes from 2,000km away? What does Russia want/gain in doing this? That's how we can gain a real understanding of what's happening.
I don't think you'll get an answer from anyone here, Russia can hold a 50 thousand man exercise but can't spare the manpower and equipment to push back this new offensive.

It's either a matter of priority or capability and I don't think you can get better training than fighting a actual resisting enemy.

RuAF should have shattered any armoured push by the Ukrainians long before they could push this far into captured territory.
 

Overbom

Brigadier
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I don't think you'll get an answer from anyone here, Russia can hold a 50 thousand man exercise but can't spare the manpower and equipment to push back this new offensive.
Most likely these are conscripts which can't be used unless Russia Putin formally declares war on Ukraine

Lest we forget, even now this is called a "special military operation" lol
 
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