The War in the Ukraine

TongHua

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Russians are not seriously about war in Ukraine. As long as Ukraine don't invade Russia proper they mostly let rebels do the heavy lifting. Only a very small number of Russian army, mostly airborne and marines, provide limited supportive role to rebels. They even have a lot of planes and helicopters lying around in Syria not doing anything.
 

pmc

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I don't think Europe would ever lift sanctions on Russia, unless Putin's successor cucks themselves to Western interests..... BUT I can totally see Europe importing oil/gas from third-parties which are in fact Russian-oil/gas that is mixed with other national sources and overlooking the admixture to make ends meet. These middle-men will make insane profit while these two blocs have a pissing contest.
Europe will lift sanctions sooner or later depending on climate/demographic changes in Middleast/Europe. so i will not use word ever.
Russia will give temporary victories to Ukrainian so that they are engaged in battlefield and keep asking for more aid.
 

Heliox

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What these images show is that there is logistics installed to treat the wounded, with the support of vehicles and with a facility for this purpose near the combat lines.

All that the pics show is what is likely to be a Bn casualty point in operation.
- drip stands do not exist at the coy level and below. I'd be very impressed if this is a Coy casualty point and very worried if this is supposed to be >Bde level.
- number of medics in picture is also in excess of what a Coy casualty point will have.
- ambulance in picture looks to be standard ambo that is organic to almost all Bn level med plt. Used primarily for casualty tpt Coy->Bn->Bde. So the pic with the ambo may be showing what is a casualty receiving/triage point.

In other words, pics are showing organic Bn support - which is the least anyone can hope for in terms of functional unit cohesion in a planned assault ... hardly a demo of "logistics installed with support of vehicles". To clarify, these pics do not prove nor disprove installed logistics ... they just prove casualties (yes stating the obvious).
 
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Phead128

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Hilarious....This is what I am thinking...
  1. India and third-party countries purchases Russian oil/gas at a 30% discount....
  2. India et al. sells excess supply to Middle East at 80% mark-up, which mixes oil/gas with Russian oil/gas at a 51%-49% ratio.
  3. Middle East sells this 51-49% mixture to Europe at a 120% mark-up.
  4. Europe effectively pays 200% or more for the same Russian oil/gas, just goes through multiple middle-men who refines it to a different national origin.
Europe declares victory and gloats that it does not "directly" import oil/gas from Russia...... BUT at what cost???

This is the price Europe has to pay for their cheap virtue signaling and cheap morale grand standing, but at the end of the day, you still need to warm your house in the winter. There is always loopholes to avoid freezing to death in the winter. Europeans will gladly overlook these loopholes if life depends on it.... and the middle-men will make insane profit.
 

gelgoog

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@Phead128 I guess the concept of Papal indulgences must be new to you.

These are modern day and age Papal indulgences. As long as the certificates say the oil is not Russian, then you can rest assured that Ukraine will remain free. Even if it is 51% Saudi and 49% Russian oil mixture. Or refined Russian oil sold as diesel, distillates, or whatever.
 

Soldier30

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Soldiers of PMC Wagner told about some episodes of fighting in Ukraine near Artemovsk. Video with subtitles youtube



The Ukrainian army has begun to mark its military equipment with new identification marks, with a distinctly white cross on the videos that have appeared. It is not yet known whether all military equipment of Ukraine will be marked this way, or whether the equipment of one of the groupings of troops is designated this way.



A Ukrainian soldier spoke about the battle in Ukraine and the defeat of his ambushed squad. Video with subtitles youtube



Attack of PMC Wagner, soldiers of Ukraine were ambushed. A video of a real battle in Ukraine was filmed by soldiers of the Ukrainian army, on the way to their stronghold near the city of Bakhmut, Ukrainian soldiers were ambushed by Wagner PMCs. The video was taken from the phone of a deceased soldier of the Ukrainian army. Video with youtube subtitles

 
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