The War in the Ukraine

reservior dogs

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I usually don't post here but whatever idiot planned to send Ukrainians troops to an obvious trap should be send to jail for negligence.
I think a danger is the waning support from the West. The entire war hinges on huge infusion of money and war equipment from the West. If that even slows below a threshold, it will be the end of the Ukraine war. This is all an act of desperation from the Ukrainian leadership and the war supporters from the West.
 

lucretius

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Lol, according to the Ukranians and the think tank that has been running cover for them

Which completely ignores the other +8.000 tanks in service with the Russians.

Russia has (had) around 2500-3000 tanks in active service. They have another 6000 in various states of storage/scrapping. Here is a video attempting to examine how many of them are fit to be brought back into service.

 

Intrepid

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Which completely ignores the other +8.000 tanks in service with the Russians.
In 1993 I flew for 14 days (a privately organized pilot program) on Russian aircraft (L-39 and AN-24) from a Russian airfield (Vyazmar). I have seen a lot of abandoned equipment (airplanes, helicopters, vehicles) and have been told that it is not operational. I don't think it has gotten any better in recent years.
 

duskseeker

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Well, how long it can take to say... brought a hulk and rebuild it into operational tank ?.
Looks like 2 months. War began in February... Some very old tanks like the T-62 pulled from Siberia were then seen in Ukraine. looks like the 8000+ mark reserve is right.
 

Overbom

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They are fighting a rather motivated group using *full* support of NATO whit only ~150K troops. Russia is not even using its air force/ strategic forces.
Russia is actually doing pretty amazing job to minimize the cost of this operation both on the battlefield and especially in economic front
While admirable in their tactics, that they fight with only 150k troops in the first place points to catastrophic-level strategic failure by Russian leaders (*cough*Putin*cough*)

Nobody cares about fair or unfair in a war. Russia should had entered the war with at least 3x the manpower and Ukraine would had been more or less be done by now. Instead we are witnessing a Putin's clownshow

Maybe in their next meeting, Xi should gift to Putin Sun Tzu's writings
 

sheogorath

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Well, how long it can take to say... brought a hulk and rebuild it into operational tank ?.

That'll depend on the level of storage the tank was in when it was pulled out. If I recall correctly, Venezuela signed the deal for the T-72B1's around 2010, the tanks were pulled out of Russian reserves and sent to the 103 Armored Repair Plant and started to be delivered around mid 2011.

And that factory was already working on T-72B3 for Russia, T-55 for Cuba at the time.
 

duskseeker

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Just use the Government officials and Generals first and the militia last if they are intent on doi
While admirable in their tactics, that they fight with only 150k troops in the first place point to catastrophic strategic failure of Russian leaders (*cough*Putin*cough*)

Nobody cares about fair or unfair in a war. Russia should bad entered the war with 3x the manpower and Ukraine should had been more or less get done by now. Instead we are witnessing a Putin's clownshow

Maybe in their next meeting, Xi should give as a gift, Sun Tzu writings, to Putin
I was thinking about that, but if they did, Would NATO jump the Shark and think WW3 just started?
 
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