Because they are convinced that Russia military is going to implode and the Ukrainians will soon storm the red square with 50 trillion soldiers before invading China.
The War in the Ukraine
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Because they are convinced that Russia military is going to implode and the Ukrainians will soon storm the red square with 50 trillion soldiers before invading China.
do you think Putin does not know how to fight sustainable war in a moderate way despite his history with those who lead Israel into every type of combat since its creation. he had been to every defense exhibition and every military exercises. he had very extensive communication with OPEC+ leaders who had used Western Airpower like no one else beside US.
Need to kill this myth about the Wagner, DPR, LPR, Cossacks, and Chechens doing all the dirty work. To some degree they are supported by and fighting with Russian forces on the ground. They are concentrated on the Slivansk, Bakhmut, Soledar and Donetsk fronts. The attacks coming from Izyium and Kharkiv fronts are mainly by Russian forces such as Guards and rifle units. Kherson front is full of Russian special forces such as airborne and marines and to an increasing degree by brigades and battalions raised from people from Kherson and Crimea, especially the so called Odessa Brigades.
2nd paragraph nails it. The Russians and allied units rain artillery to every defensive position then send a probe to check it out. If still alive, rain it some more. If dead, they occupy it. Rinse and repeat.
It's the Ukrainians that are fighting like old style Communists sending wave assaults into the open fields of Kherson and having these assaults blasted in the open by Russian artillery.
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Range isn't that important. A lot of the artillery being thrown at the Ukrainians are mortars and at mortar range. Mortars have been vastly underrated in this war. The 105s can still be useful if the Ukrainians know how to use them. If the Russians had them they would still be used to deadly effect. The Russians have become very good at counter battery, apparently something that developed from hard experience and practice in battery.
And has any major fighting happened in the Kherson or Kharkiv areas? No. There hasn’t been a major operation there. The regular army has been mostly acting as a supporting and defensive role until command make a move with them. As it currently stands, the bulk of the heavy fighting has been done by the SF/militia. Mariupol, Lysychansk, Severodonetsk, Bakhmut, etc. All of the heavy urban fighting has been conducted by the SF/militia after they left Northern Ukraine. The regular army has not tried to stormed Kharkiv, Izyium, Nikolaev etc.
Didn't there has been some offensive operations in Kherson area towards Nikolaev for the past few days?
The only way this S.M.O. would make sense is rapid encirclement of Kiev leads to rapid capitulation, suing for peace, and negotiated on "neutrality treaty", DNR/LNR independence, and relinquishing Crimea to Russia. All ending in a month or two maximum. It only make sense since the 5-axis multi-prong invasion was woefully undermanned, overstretched supply lines, and insufficient logistics. This can only make sense if they viewed Ukrainians folding like a wet-paper bag like how Russia walked into Crimea without firing a shot in 2014. The Western sanction response has made it an large "sunk cost" for Russia to just keep waging war until the winter, when Putin will turn off the gas in winter time, forcing the Europeans to force the Ukrainians to the negotiation table. That's really their only option left to get a negotiated settlement, since Ukrainians won't concede without being forced to by Europeans, so Russia must use it's gas card in the winter.
Actually there are plenty. You don't obviously keep track by following even the Youtube mappers, i.e. Military Summary, DPA, New World Econ, Weeb Union, Thetis Mapping. In fact, there are now Russian attacks all over the Kharkiv, Izium and Kherson fronts, and they are gradually grabbing territory.
I won't call it "heavy urban fighting", as it looks like the Russians and allies are using TOS thermobaric rockets to burn and level entire building complexes and they only come in after everything is dead. Like I said, probing and recon attacks, turn back when they encounter resistance, report resistance to artillery, shell them till dead, then probe again. Rinse and repeat. They are not storming like you think like its a SWAT operation. Its slow and its gradual. They also have to demine several zones, and I think mines are the biggest cause for slowing the Russians down.
If they encounter some real heavy resistance, they stop, but proceed to attacks along the side, until the resistance is encircled. Then bomb and shell it to death, then occupy.
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Great analysis. The basic Russian fighting unit is a tactical battalion group. It is heavily armed but not really built for maneuvering warfare. More suited to maneuvering static warfare. They will plant themselves in an advantageous location and becomes a immovable wall, providing firepower to the frontline, slowly grinding out the Ukrainians. Fighting in Donbass means the supply lines are much shorter for the Russians where as the Ukrainians are having huge difficulties with supplying even the basic stuff to their troops. This allow them to maintain a high tempo of bombardment and do the most damage to the Ukrainian army while they are in this advantageous situation. It was said that fire exchanges are 10 or 20 to 1 in favor of the Russians in terms of cannon shells used. Since the Russians can strike anywhere inside Ukraine with impunity, it means they can also take out Ukrainian cannons much more effectively. Since most (someone gave a number of 85%) of the casualties are caused by cannons for both sides, it means Ukrainians suffer casualties that are several times that of the Russian ones. The Russians have all the time in the world to do the job with minimal human losses. Why not keep the battlefield where the Russians have the most advantage as long as they can? If they come out of this expending only large amount of cannons and shells while keeping most of their troops intact where as the Ukrainians lost most of their best troops and equipment, it just makes the job to conquer the rest of Ukraine that much easier.