The War in the Ukraine

Abominable

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I think that the biggest misconception currently is that they haven't pushed after Lysychansk. They did. But got repelled. They don't have power.

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Please respond with an actual sentence that is informative.
No evidence of any push. Just heavy bombarment of Ukrainian lines. Some telegram rumours that Siversk had been taken but nothing official.

Before the advance to capture Lysychansk, western analysts were saying the exact same thing they were saying now. Russia isn't capable of further pushes, Lysychansk will be a fortress that won't be taken any time soon. Three days later Russian troops were in the town centre.

The Russian plan is simple, smash Ukrainian lines with constant shelling then when the lines collapse, advance forward. Ukrainians are having frontline casualties of 1,000+ a day, better to keep this up for months (or even years) so controlling the country will be much easier when the time comes.
 

Yommie

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Biscuits

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I think that the biggest misconception currently is that they haven't pushed after Lysychansk. They did. But got repelled. They don't have power.

lol
Please respond with an actual sentence that is informative.
Guys, stop beating a dead horse. Pics or it didn't happen. Is taking a picture so hard? It would be big news!

No evidence of any push. Just heavy bombarment of Ukrainian lines. Some telegram rumours that Siversk had been taken but nothing official.

Before the advance to capture Lysychansk, western analysts were saying the exact same thing they were saying now. Russia isn't capable of further pushes, Lysychansk will be a fortress that won't be taken any time soon. Three days later Russian troops were in the town centre.

The Russian plan is simple, smash Ukrainian lines with constant shelling then when the lines collapse, advance forward. Ukrainians are having frontline casualties of 1,000+ a day, better to keep this up for months (or even years) so controlling the country will be much easier when the time comes.
Ukraine also learned from the Severodonetsk battle in that Siversk has similar geography, being in the lowlands. Last time, they got destroyed because they were focused on trying to fortify the city, whereas now they're ignoring the city and fighting on the outskirts.

Whoever controls the outskirts would presumably completely control the city as well. So rumors that allied forces entered Siversk are not worth too much, they need to keep inflicting high casualties on the defenders around the high ground in order to take the settlement.
 

NukedOne

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The fight is going on for the hights near Seversk. There is no point in taking town if those hights remain in Ukrainian hands. They will be able to shell troops in town and inflict significant casualties. And those hights are fortified, so it is not easy to drive Ukrainians off them, even with air support.
 

Yommie

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NLOS footage


120 mm mortar which is not that much use due to low fire power and short range


rebel ATGM teams, they only have hand me down Konkurs


Odessa got hit after grain deal



The fight is going on for the hights near Seversk. There is no point in taking town if those hights remain in Ukrainian hands. They will be able to shell troops in town and inflict significant casualties. And those hights are fortified, so it is not easy to drive Ukrainians off them, even with air support.

This is why I think the war will be stalemate from here on out with no more change on the ground. Russians cannot take the heights near Seversk, and Ukrainians don't have the man power to take Lisichansk. Keep in mind Russia has more than 3 times the population of Ukraine, so even though Ukraine does full mobilization while Russia does not mobilize, it's probably still a 2 to 1 man power advantage for Russians in Donbas considering most of the fighting in Donbas is done by rebels who control most of the larger cities.
 
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