The War in the Ukraine

Yommie

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So now the Orlan 10 isn't a piece of garbage with a comercial DSLR strapped in and a water bottle as a fuel tank, but actually a cutting edge drone because it uses western tech


The Canon camera video was fake. It was Ukrainian propaganda. It has pretty good thermal imager. And even if the camera brand is French, it's all made in China anyway. These days 99% of electronics if not more are made in China.

Ukrainians are seriously provoking Russians to attack the Kremenchuk oil refinery by attacking the Lisichansk oil refinery. So far, Russians not taking the bait.


Russians are dusting their 240 mm self propelled mortars out of storage for use.


O group self propelled howitzers near Seversk

 

Janiz

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As long as losses are disproportionately Ukrainian, Russia will gain ground if they want to push.
I think that the biggest misconception currently is that they haven't pushed after Lysychansk. They did. But got repelled. They don't have power.
Throughout this war, we've seen that Russians eventually react to changes in the battlefield. All they need now are more drones (possibly from Iran) to improve their strikes.
lol
Please respond with an actual sentence that is informative.
 
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Yommie

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SlothmanAllen

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rebel arti fire and footage of incendiary MRLS also called fireworks of death

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That's how much it costs. Each GMRLS costs 160,000 dollars and Kiev regime uses hundreds if not thousands a day to achieve stalemate, so it's quite expensive over only 10 years of war.
I am not sure I agree with your calculation, but if you think the United States lacks the financial resources to maintain a conflict for extended period of time I don't know what to tell you. The fact that they are casually dedicating billions of dollars to the endeavor should inform you that financial constraints are not a concern for the US.
 

emblem21

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I am not sure I agree with your calculation, but if you think the United States lacks the financial resources to maintain a conflict for extended period of time I don't know what to tell you. The fact that they are casually dedicating billions of dollars to the endeavor should inform you that financial constraints are not a concern for the US.
Dedicating billions is one thing but how many piece of artillery is another, 4 units of Himars isn’t going to halt the advance of Russia since Himar are supposed to operate in sheer numbers to be effective. Unless the USA can send f-25/f-22 and b-2 bombers in order to really make a difference, the current trajectory for Russia will not change and those billions might as well be funneled to the elite instead of the war movement. Also, does the USA have enough missiles to send to Ukraine indefinitely along with NATO

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muddie

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I am not sure I agree with your calculation, but if you think the United States lacks the financial resources to maintain a conflict for extended period of time I don't know what to tell you. The fact that they are casually dedicating billions of dollars to the endeavor should inform you that financial constraints are not a concern for the US.
But it's way beyond just the billions in military aid the U.S. is providing to Ukraine, it's the effect the Ukraine war has on the EU and Russia's energy leverage.

The war is having a direct impact on EU politics because the war is creating a conflict of interest between the U.S. and EU. This is why Putin is so focused on the political aspect of the war. If EU enters into a deep recession caused by Russian gas cuts and existing problems like inflation, supply chain issues, already weak/no growth economies within the EU, etc. What do you think will happen to the relationship between EU and U.S.?

Also, despite all the talk of major Ukrainian counter offenses since March, they haven't achieved any meaningful gains in taking back lost territories while Western weapons continued to be poured in. Western arms can at most delay Russian advances and inflict additional casualties but won't fundamentally change the direction of the war. If the U.S. really wants to change they course of the war, they would need to intervene directly at this point.
 

RottenPanzer

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Interesting that Russian attempts on taking Seversk has been failed for the past few days...
I guess Zelensky Line is a real deal huh, shouldn't have underestimated it
Ukrainians are seriously provoking Russians to attack the Kremenchuk oil refinery by attacking the Lisichansk oil refinery. So far, Russians not taking the bait.

Discounting the attack on Lisichansk oil refinery for a while and wanna talk the above tweet, it seems it's indeed true that Russia has attempting to deploy their
S-400 to Khersom region since we have seen a destroyed belong S-400 SAM system 2 days ago.

I find this decision to be a bad idea since this would make the S-400 in range of Ukrainian HIMARS, there's really not a lot of consensus to really deploy it to Kherson in my own opinion
 

Yommie

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According to census, Russia has population 147 million compared to Ukraine has population 43 million after subtracting Crimea and Luhansk. Russia can afford to fight without mobilization. Ukraine cannot afford to fight without mobilization. However, in the case of a forever war such as this one, mobilization is not sustainable economically.
 
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