The War in the Ukraine

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“You want to build a long-term plan on how do you build their air force and the air force that they're going to need for the future,” the US Air Force Chief of Staff General Charles Brown said.

“There’s a number of different platforms that could go to Ukraine… It’ll be something non-Russian, I can probably tell you that,” Brown said. “But I can’t tell you exactly what it’s going to be.”
The general did not reveal any concrete plans to send jets to Ukraine, only speculating that all options were on the table including US-made planes, as well as Swedish Gripens, Eurofighter Typhoons and French Rafales.

I really doubt they will send expensive planes. The West would also implode if one of these aircraft somehow ends up fully intact on a Russian airfield.
 

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The war also revealed some very fundamental limitations arising from the structure of Russian military - namely the role and size of Military Districts. This is a particularly interesting question as it brings attention to Chinese military reform which established Theater Commands - there are important lessons to be drawn from Russian errors. Russia has very limited air force that is not just spread geographically but also isolated due to lack of sufficient infrastructure and support services (aerial refueling).

For example Russia's primary tactical bomber force (Su-24M and Su-34) is physically split between Western, Southern, Central and Eastern districts and any institutional inertia (not to mention corruption) makes it difficult to re-integrate assets while preserving the structure. The USAF has Air Combat Command with centralized assets leaving theater commands with multi-role planes. This meant that Russian tactical bombers couldn't be used in overwhelming numbers because institutional structure kept control and supply separate. Moreover there was no indication that the command of the invasion was handled by an unified command structure. Instead it very much seemed that all the commands pitched in with notional oversight from politically-nominated commanders at the top level. There is no evidence that air forces of western and southern districts coordinated together. That split the ~60 Su-34 at their disposal while separation of districts prevented the most efficient use of all ~120 Su-34s. Similarly Tu-22M3s were not used to the best of their capacity which in comparison to how B-52s were used in Desert Storm (low-altitude bombing runs) suggests that the crews are not trained sufficiently as Long Range Aviation does participate in the operation. These two types alone would mean 150 bombers capable of delivering massed strikes at targets compared to the 40 at best that were used in the initial phase.

On Chinese vs Russia military structure, the Chinese theater commands are supposed to be purely operational structures, with administrative duties fall to a separate chain of command led by services headquarters. Northerner Theater Command are not in charge of procurement, maintenance, training or personnel matters of the PLAN Northern Fleet. Conversely, if parts of PLAN Northern Fleet are to participate in a Taiwan scenario, these naval formations will fall under Eastern Theater Command rather than Northern Theater Command. Thus Chinese theater commands are very much different from Russian military regions, which I understand to be, at least on paper, administrative structures.

Each Chinese theater command is associated a number of strategic directions they are responsible for and each theater command is the sole highest joint command of their assigned strategic directions (presumably also their geographical region within China). The Northern Theater's strategic directions include Korean Peninsula as well as Eastern Russia & Siberia. The job of the brasses of the Northern Theater Command is to make operational plans for, say, scenarios where Russia invades Northeastern China or where US and South Korea invades North Korea, and run joint exercises (but not day-to-day training of individual formations) to prepare for such operations.

A problem, similar to what Russia is experiencing now, arises when an operation requires units stationed outside the theater command's geographical region inside China. Say a hypothetical scenario where Vietnam invades Cambodia again and the Southern Theater Command is running a two-front operation with a ground invasion of Vietnam from north and also Liaoning and Shandong providing air support to Cambodian forces from the Gulf of Thailand. Liaoning and Shandong CBGs will be commanded by the Southern Theater Command in such a scenario. I guess the hope is that since maintenance, training and personnel matters of both carrier battle groups are administered by the naval service and not by the theater commands, they are not wed to the theater command of their respective home base and are capable of operating under the Southern Theater Command and coordinating with each other.

If Russia has Chinese-style theater commands then their "Western Theater Command" would run the invasion alone, and HQs of their other theater commands would focus on planning for contingency in their area of responsibility.
 

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The first question is of course where they will likely be based. For me it seems Ivano-Frankfisk and Uzhorod International hold potential. particularly Uzhorod. s it's so close to NATO allies border. and might likely be away from Russian AEW except if one flying above Black sea.
 

B777LR

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It is in my opinion way to early to talk about advanced fighter jets. The west has been unwilling to even deliver retired cold-war era tanks to Ukraine. By several accounts, Ukraine is even short of fuel to run those tanks it already has, something the west could deliver super easily with very little risk. Western/American arsenals are big enough to equip every soldier in Ukraine with an M16 or M4 and near endless amounts of ammunition without making a dent in our numbers, and yet we haven't, and they run about with Maxim guns. They received a pitiful amount of M113s, those didn't even come with armament. 100 F-35s? At this rate, they wouldn't even receive armed Cessna Caravans before the war is over.
 

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I really doubt they will send expensive planes. The West would also implode if one of these aircraft somehow ends up fully intact on a Russian airfield.

Considering the US already spends trillions of dollars on millions of expensive GMRLS rockets for Kiev regime, spending trillions of dollars on fighter jets for Kiev regime is not out of the question.
 
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On the night of July 21, Russian troops launched a missile attack on the Ukrainian military depot in Nikolaev. Local residents reported a series of violent explosions throughout the night in warehouses, moments now visible on video. After the attack on the warehouse in Nikolaev, the SBU began looking for saboteurs who had passed the exact coordinates of the object to the Russian military.



Ukrainian soldiers showed an episode of the battle with erroneous fire on their troops. Apparently there is no communication between the military units.

 
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