The War in the Ukraine

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Topazchen

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ACuriousPLAFan said:
How so?

2nd round of Battle of Kiev, but for real this time instead of merely a diversion and with Belarus joining the war? Usage of FOAB? Or usage of tactical nukes on Ukraine?

Just my 2 cents.
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More heavy bombing by Russians.

Targeting of Ukrainian government buildings and infrastructure and faster than expected collapse of the Ukranian armed forces.
 
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“We were chased like rabbits by the Russian artillery,” said Dima Filin, 47, a commander in an artillery unit in the 30th brigade. “We couldn’t do anything. For the last four days we were just hiding from Russian drones.”

Four months after Putin launched his
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, the country’s soldiers are dying by the thousands.

Soldier after soldier told us that between 40 and 60 per cent of the fighters in their units had been killed, most of them ripped apart by Russian artillery fire.

Despite the much-vaunted deliveries of heavy weapons from the West, it is clear that Ukraine is vastly outgunned. Along hundreds of miles of front lines in the east, anger and disillusionment is growing — among seasoned fighters and new volunteers alike — that Ukrainians are dying without being given the chance to fight back.

A month ago, he said, they were firing 150 shells a day at the Russian lines. Now they’re down to about ten a day, because resupplies are falling short. At times, they’ve had none.

“We’re fighting when we have shells,” he said, speaking from Kyiv, where he was recovering from a shrapnel injury to his head. “Otherwise we can’t do anything.”

Complaints abound among the soldiers that some units have received highly effective western weapons, such as American Himars, high-mobility rocket artillery known for its range and targeting ability, while others have been overlooked.
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FairAndUnbiased

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ACuriousPLAFan said:
How so?

2nd round of Battle of Kiev, but for real this time instead of merely a diversion and with Belarus joining the war? Usage of FOAB? Or usage of tactical nukes on Ukraine?

Just my 2 cents.
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A few possibilities that only require policy changes.

1. Cut the Ukrainian electricity supply originating from Zaporizhzhia Generating Station and Kakhovka Dam.

2. Reduce Ukrainian gas allocation to 0 without cutting gas entirely. Now any gas Ukraine takes is stolen from the EU.

3. Accept referendum of Zaporizhzhia and Kherson to join Russian Federation.
 
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memfisa

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Right. What I mean is it would be nice to see here a deeper treatment of the logistical / manufacturing issues that set the boundaries of what is possible in Russia.

Discussions like that can take place here, but not so much on Western media or forums.

Unfortunately, I think the reading of various Russian sources, which have reliability issues of their own, would be required in order to inform the discussion. But it would be better than what I am seeing frequently here and elsewhere, which is someone provides figures about "Russian losses" from the latest NATO propaganda cutout, and people react to those figures.

Instead of a reactive discussion, a more comprehensive discussion of what is going on with production and doctrine, would be preferable.
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For those who have been paying attention, releases from official Russian MOD have been pretty accurate to date. I'm hesitantly leaning towards trusting what they say, where that hesitation comes from, probably my life of being indoctrinated with the Russia evil theme.
 
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