The War in the Ukraine

memfisa

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According to Russian MOD that facility they attacked in Vinnitsa was hosting a meeting between Ukrainian officials and foreign arms suppliers discussing new batches of weapons deliveries and repairing Ukraine's broken airforce. If so, that's some pretty good intelligence gathering and IMO a perfect target to strike. Of course Ukraine will never admit what was actually hit, how can they when the entire media apparatus is now under Elensky's fist. At best they will say it was a school or an orphanage

These are good targets, especially with foreign agents coming to agitate the situation even further than it already is. They should understand that it's not safe to come to Ukraine for drinks and selling more weapons through petro dollar loans that the people of Ukraine can't afford, and this is how you teach them.
 

GodRektsNoobs

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A few possibilities that only require policy changes.

1. Cut the Ukrainian electricity supply originating from Zaporizhzhia Generating Station and Kakhovka Dam.

2. Reduce Ukrainian gas allocation to 0 without cutting gas entirely. Now any gas Ukraine takes is stolen from the EU.

3. Accept referendum of Zaporizhzhia and Kherson to join Russian Federation.
1 and 2 are better done during winter. It must be done suddenly to rob EU and Ukraine the time to prepare.
 

Sheleah

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According to Russian MOD that facility they attacked in Vinnitsa was hosting a meeting between Ukrainian officials and foreign arms suppliers discussing new batches of weapons deliveries and repairing Ukraine's broken airforce. If so, that's some pretty good intelligence gathering and IMO a perfect target to strike. Of course Ukraine will never admit what was actually hit, how can they when the entire media apparatus is now under Elensky's fist. At best they will say it was a school or an orphanage

These are good targets, especially with foreign agents coming to agitate the situation even further than it already is. They should understand that it's not safe to come to Ukraine for drinks and selling more weapons through petro dollar loans that the people of Ukraine can't afford, and this is how you teach them.
That is only the pro-Russian speculations to justify the attack, which left more figures of civilians dead than military, in addition that headquarters of the Ukrainian air force command, was attacked months ago, so if there was any important military activity , it would have been carried out under bunkers, and the missiles sent do not even have anti-bunker capacity... What is seen is that the adjacent residential building, where there was a neuromed office, was destroyed, almost all the patients were killed
 

sheogorath

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That is only the pro-Russian speculations to justify the attack, which left more figures of civilians dead than military, in addition that headquarters of the Ukrainian air force command, was attacked months ago, so if there was any important military activity , it would have been carried out under bunkers, and the missiles sent do not even have anti-bunker capacity... What is seen is that the adjacent residential building, where there was a neuromed office, was destroyed, almost all the patients were killed

Another recent attack had the Ukranians claiming a civilian target was hit while the pictures showed rescue services pulling out men in military uniforms out of the rubble, so yeah.

Apparrently the russians only strike civilian targets yet the numbers of civilians killed as reported by the UN don't match the Ukranian narrative
 

memfisa

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1 and 2 are better done during winter. It must be done suddenly to rob EU and Ukraine the time to prepare.
With sanctions of course.
That is only the pro-Russian speculations to justify the attack, which left more figures of civilians dead than military, in addition that headquarters of the Ukrainian air force command, was attacked months ago, so if there was any important military activity , it would have been carried out under bunkers, and the missiles sent do not even have anti-bunker capacity... What is seen is that the adjacent residential building, where there was a neuromed office, was destroyed, almost all the patients were killed
From the video of the building that was struck, it didn't look like it was out of commission from an earlier strike. The building looked to be in perfect order.

As I said earlier, ive seen russian MOD statements to be proven more accurate than the claims comming from the other side so the any statement comming from Ukrainian officials or mainstream media is fighting against a major trust deficit with me. In simpler terms they've been caught lieing so many times I don't trust anything they say anymore.

This is why I teach my kids to always tell the truth. When you are found to be a liar you quickly find yourself with no credibility.
 

Sheleah

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Another recent attack had the Ukranians claiming a civilian target was hit while the pictures showed rescue services pulling out men in military uniforms out of the rubble, so yeah.

Apparrently the russians only strike civilian targets yet the numbers of civilians killed as reported by the UN don't match the Ukranian narrative

Of course, according to you all cases are the same, and everything the Russian MoD says is true



The images where firefighters and military personnel are seen removing bodies, is precisely from neuromed in the residential building


But in reality, patients and doctors died, more than foreign soldiers, in addition to the fact that the Ukrainian high command can easily negotiate Western material in Western countries, without exposing themselves to Russian bombardment.

It makes it very difficult for the fans to condemn these actions, it is easier for them to stick to Russian propaganda and justify
 

Temstar

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Another recent attack had the Ukranians claiming a civilian target was hit while the pictures showed rescue services pulling out men in military uniforms out of the rubble, so yeah.

Apparrently the russians only strike civilian targets yet the numbers of civilians killed as reported by the UN don't match the Ukranian narrative
I recall seeing that video too, uniformed bodies being pulled out of the rubble.

We even have Ukrainian sources complaining about it

Russian MOD says this:

Which will then explain
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issued yesterday by US Embassy in Kiev warning about missile attacks and telling citizens to not to enter Ukraine and to depart immediately.
 
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