The War in the Ukraine

Michaelsinodef

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Can’t just say it’s stupid and only post pros and no cons.

I will add on that mass mobilization would probably be a bad move in the short term as in the last few months. Mobilizing will put a burden on the Russian economy, which plays right into the hands of the western economic shock and awe a couple months ago.
I mentioned pros (less loss of life, cheap), but it is a stupid/dumb method (mass artillery slowly creeping forward, basically ww1/ww2 'levels/kinds/type' of combat, yes it's not only that, but the majority of the war is that).
 

drowingfish

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while i understand Russia not wanting to mobilize, but I do wonder if there has been any work done in the past few months to expand the size of its army. in my opinion if Russia can throw an additional 20k-30k troops into Ukraine it would make a pretty big difference.
 

FriedButter

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while i understand Russia not wanting to mobilize, but I do wonder if there has been any work done in the past few months to expand the size of its army. in my opinion if Russia can throw an additional 20k-30k troops into Ukraine it would make a pretty big difference.

From what I heard. Russian volunteers and other units (older veterans and whatnot) are being send in as the rearguard while the main backbone of the army is focused on the frontlines.
 

Soldier30

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The Ukrainian army began to create motorcycle ATGM crew units. Soldiers use the Metis 9K115 ATGM developed in 1978 with a range of one kilometer and move on Dnepr motorcycles




The moment of a Russian missile strike at a temporary deployment point for Ukrainian soldiers and foreign mercenaries in the city of Chasov Yar in Ukraine was caught on video. During the analysis of the rubble, the dead in military uniform were found.

 

TK3600

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Ukrainian ambassador to Germany had a train wreck of an interview where he denied a Ukrainian Nazi collaborator killed Jews, and instead compared him to robin hood (LOL). I must have missed the scene in prince of thieves where the untermenschen were lead into gas chambers.

He got fired by Zelensky who's smart enough to realise it's hard to claim your country isn't Nazi infested if your ambassadors are openly denying the holocaust. There's probably been some sort of internal power struggle that's lead to him fire the others, maybe he gave them an ultimatum to stop denying the holocaust or get fired.
Lol link?
 

Yommie

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footage of ATGM strike


Orlan drone footage of some artillery strikes


while i understand Russia not wanting to mobilize, but I do wonder if there has been any work done in the past few months to expand the size of its army. in my opinion if Russia can throw an additional 20k-30k troops into Ukraine it would make a pretty big difference.

Russia isn't taking the war seriously. They leave a bunch of attack choppers in Syria rather than using them in Donbas.


footage of some Su-25 attack jets

 
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sheogorath

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he moment of a Russian missile strike at a temporary deployment point for Ukrainian soldiers and foreign mercenaries in the city of Chasov Yar in Ukraine was caught on video. During the analysis of the rubble, the dead in military uniform were found.

Seems they double-tapped that building. Must be really unlucky they didn't get missiles from that 70% that always fail, according to the Ukrainian government
 

FADH1791

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Kiev claims that they have a million men under arms. And they are planning a massive counter attack to retake the southern areas. I don’t know how they will do this without air cover, artillery and low number of tanks and armored vehicles. This sounds like it will be the Ukrainian version of the failed Syria rebel offensives into Aleppo which broke the back of the rebel army. They will send mass number of men to the south and they will get annihilated by Russian artillery, air power and fortified areas.
 

Yommie

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Kiev claims that they have a million men under arms. And they are planning a massive counter attack to retake the southern areas. I don’t know how they will do this without air cover, artillery and low number of tanks and armored vehicles. This sounds like it will be the Ukrainian version of the failed Syria rebel offensives into Aleppo which broke the back of the rebel army. They will send mass number of men to the south and they will get annihilated by Russian artillery, air power and fortified areas.

A million men army out of a country of 35 million people would require 50% defense budget. By comparison, the US has 330 million people and 1 million men army with 5% defense budget. Yeah. I don't think it's sustainable for Ukraine. If the war goes on for 10 years, 100 years, it's going to be hard on the civilians. I see Ukrainians leaving for the west where life quality is better than Ukraine.

Not like Aleppo but more like the numerous failed Hama offensives.
 

FADH1791

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A million men army out of a country of 35 million people would require 50% defense budget. By comparison, the US has 330 million people and 1 million men army with 5% defense budget. Yeah. I don't think it's sustainable for Ukraine. If the war goes on for 10 years, 100 years, it's going to be hard on the civilians. I see Ukrainians leaving for the west where life quality is better than Ukraine.

Not like Aleppo but more like the numerous failed Hama offensives.

Ah yes the multiple failed Hama offensives. How can I forget. The rebels would send wave after wave of fighters only for them to get annihilated. And they did this hoping to open another front to relieve the rebels pinned down in the Aleppo countryside. The SAA/NDF strategy was simple. Retreat to defensible positions, bomb the rebels with intense artillery and aerial bombardment and counterattack to push them back. We already see this on the number of failed offensives. Kherson is the new Hama.
 
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