The War in the Ukraine

zhangjim

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Hmm. That’s not the account I read. The US advised Chiang against committing troops into cities and railway junctures. They knew that he would be thereby ceding the initiative to the Communists in the country side and have his urban garrisons surrounded and picked off one by one.

Chiang was notoriously intolerant of US advisors and had general Stilwell removed due to incorrigible differences in the application of military strategy.

I doubt Zelensky has anywhere near that much clout.
Chiang Kai Shek was very sensitive to the control of the army. He did not trust any military commander.

When he commanded to resist the Japanese invasion in Shanghai, he had already carried out such an act to win international attention.
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This is a long answer. Pay attention to the first paragraph,he succinctly expounded Chiang Kai Shek's political considerations.

When KMT gradually lost its advantages, China Lobby and China Bloc asked KMT to show more victories to ensure continued assistance.In principle, the United States will not allow Soviet influence to fully control Northeast China.So although Chiang Kai Shek lost the initiative in Northeast China, he was always reluctant to withdraw his troops.

Zelensky is much more incompetent by comparison.He had no way to control the army, and Chiang Kai Shek at least had control of American aid.The Azov Battalion can receive direct military assistance from the United States,the boss of these fascist military organizations is not the Ukrainian government.

On the first day of the war, it was pointed out that Ukraine must withdraw its eastern troops immediately, otherwise their withdrawal route would be cut off by the Russian army quickly.
But the Ukrainians chose to stay there and do nothing.Now, like Chiang Kai Shek, Zelensky has lost most of his army and territory, but he is still blathering about his intention to counter attack.
 

Yommie

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Mi-28N provide cover for evacuation of wounded


interesting footage of thermobaric Kornet used for attacking fortified targets


Iskanders are being used for attacking strategic targets in Kharkiv


What appears to be incendiary cluster munitions and some pretty big bombs being used at Slavyansk



203 mm howitzers of rebel army pounding Ukrainian positions

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Stealthflanker

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I think a self propelled howitzer this big has very big RCS consider it is all metal. Mi-28NM's mast mounted radar should pick it up from 40 km away. Leaves can't save it.

not that far. remember that the vehicle is not the only thing got illuminated by the radar it also some wide swath of terrain which also have its own RCS and they're big too. So the radar have to do some processing and recognition. It wont have 40 km range but more like 12 or less.
 

Hinex

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⚡️ Russian Defence Ministry report on the progress of the special military operation in Ukraine ( June 27, 2022)

Part 2 (read part 1)

❗️ Russian Federation Armed Forces continue launching attacks at military facilities located in Ukraine.

High-precision armament of Russian Aerospace Forces has neutralised the base of 106th Battalion from 63rd Mechanised Infantry Brigade of the AFU near Visunsk (Nikolayev region). Over 40 Ukrainian servicemen and 12 units of military equipment have been eliminated.

▪️ Attacks have also resulted in the elimination of AFU manpower and military equipment in 27 areas, including those that formed part of the Right Sector near Lisichansk, as well as those of Azov and Kraken near Kharkov.

5 AFU command posts and 3 munitions, missile and artillery armament depots have been neutralised near Bereznegovatoye (Nikolayev region) and Novodruzhesk (Lugansk People's Republic).

✈️ Operational-tactical and army aviation, missile troops and artillery have neutralised: 24 command posts, artillery and mortar units in 58 areas, as well as manpower and military equipment in 304 areas.

Within the counter-battery warfare towards Donetsk, high-precision armament of Russian Aerospace Forces has neutralised: 3 Grad MRLS plattoons near Avdeyevka and Dzerzhinsk, a plattoon of M-777 155-mm howitzers near Konstantinovka, 2 Giatsint 152-mm howitzer plattoons near Kalinov and Artyomovo, as well as 2 2S1 Gvozdika self-propelled artillery system plattoons near Ocheretino and Novolugansk that had been launching attacks at Donetsk and othe cities of the Donetsk People's Republic.

▪️ Russian air defence means have destroyed 10 Ukrainian unmanned aerial vehicles near Noviy Burluk, Arkushino, Kurulka, Semyonovka, Chervoniy Shakhtyor, Ternovaya (Kharkov region), Chernobayevka (Kherson region), Shcherbakovo (Zaporozhye region) and Petrovenki (Lugansk People's Republic).

2 Tochka-U tactical missiles have been intercepted near Kakhovka (Kherson region), as well as 1 MRLS rocket over Snake Island.

In total, 215 airplanes and 132 helicopters, 1,373 unmanned aerial vehicles, 350 anti-aircraft missile systems, 3,830 tanks and other armored combat vehicles, 684 combat vehicles equipped with multiple rocket-launching systems, 3,025 field artillery cannons and mortars, as well as 3,870 units of special military equipment have been destroyed during the special military operation.

#MoD #Russia #Ukraine
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plawolf

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A sizeable and increase percentage of the west and their blind followers elsewhere have rage-quit this reality and moved to the alternative Twitter-verse, Reddit-lands and YouTube-vil.

One of, if not the biggest problem for Ukraine is that much of their political leadership seem to be in this boat, and are overriding the professional military leaders to make ridiculous political decisions on how the war should be fought to appease their foreign masters in this multiverse of copeness.

Ukraine should have had no chance against Russia. But Russia gifted them half a chance with its botched military modernisation reforms and earlier strategic blunders. But with leadership like that, the Ukrainians are repaying the Russians back with interest and now the Russians are having a much easier war than they should given their aforementioned issues and the vast resources and special forces NATO have been pumping into Ukraine to prop up their war efforts.

Rather than bleed the Russians, Ukraine is turning into a total haemorrhage for NATO in terms of arms, supplies and economic output. If this war drags on for years like NATO fan clubs are wet dreaming, by the time Russia has swallowed all of Ukraine, they will be able to just keep stroll through the rest of Europe and there won’t be much left to stop them.
 

4Runner

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The causes and consequences of the Ukraine war A lecture by John J. Mearsheimer​


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This video reenforces my early judgement that it is a protracted war of attrition.

Mearsheimer hits a good point in that the Biden admin has been building up the political environment in the US such that there is very little room to back down in the war. Therefore, this war is officially a proxy war. It is existential on one side, while it is maintaining hegemony on the other side.

As I stated at the beginning phase of this war, if this war goes on for 3 years, EU would be diminished to a point where it would no longer be a peer to US or China. If this war goes on for 5 years, west would be east while east would be west.

So people would naturally ask why the US going that way in the first place? Well, like the great dynasties before, once you have been hegemony, you would not want otherwise. Hence history never repeats; it only rhymes.
 
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