The War in the Ukraine

HumanHDMI

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Yeah some pretty credible osint accounts agreed with the mugin 5 assessment.

It is 20k , 10k for airframe 10k for Power plant and electronic package. But still much cheaper then the most basic manpad.

Stats are impressive too, 120kmh cruising for 6 hours, 25kg payload, carbon fiber airframe with Kevlar fuel tank (actually why?) You can get 5 for the price of an Orlan 10.

You really need china to fight a cheap modern war
 

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Yeah some pretty credible osint accounts agreed with the mugin 5 assessment.

It is 20k , 10k for airframe 10k for Power plant and electronic package. But still much cheaper then the most basic manpad.

Stats are impressive too, 120kmh cruising for 6 hours, 25kg payload, carbon fiber airframe with Kevlar fuel tank (actually why?) You can get 5 for the price of an Orlan 10.

You really need china to fight a cheap modern war
That's quite a cheap cruise missile for kamikaze attacks on soft targets and probably good to do recon with a optical package. When it's mostly one use for Ukrainians UAV, I don't see the points of paying more anyways.
 

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That's the drone. It's quite big (5m wingspan) but light enough to be carried by one person. It also runs on fuel. What advantages does the TB-2 or any US military drone have over 5-10 of these?

It's interesting that the Ukrainians prefer commercial Chinese drones over American made military drones like the switchblade. I bet the reason is because of the poor interface/navigation on the American ones. Commercial products are usually much easier to operate.

25kg is a massive payload, you could have one of these carrying a standard anti tank mine to drop anywhere in Ukraine. Would be a great way to disable railways with no risk.

More proof to me that bigger isn't better when it comes to military drones against a peer adversary.
 

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That's the drone. It's quite big (5m wingspan) but light enough to be carried by one person. It also runs on fuel. What advantages does the TB-2 or any US military drone have over 5-10 of these?

It's interesting that the Ukrainians prefer commercial Chinese drones over American made military drones like the switchblade. I bet the reason is because of the poor interface/navigation on the American ones. Commercial products are usually much easier to operate.

25kg is a massive payload, you could have one of these carrying a standard anti tank mine to drop anywhere in Ukraine. Would be a great way to disable railways with no risk.

More proof to me that bigger isn't better when it comes to military drones against a peer adversary.
All those talks about the importance of the Switchblade is a classic case of Twitter experts hyping things. The warhead on the Switchblade equals the warhead of a 40 mm grenade. You aren't going to change the game with 1000 40 mm grenades.
 

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Wouldn't it be some cheese if Chinese drones end up costing Russia the war? I wanted Chinese drones to be involved but not this way...
In terms of these payload drones I doubt enough will be shipped to make a difference.

As for smaller ones. Even though Ukraine has received far more of them, they still help Russia more because they have more artillery firepower.

Xi should be loading that transporter with as many commercial drones as can fit into it.
 

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the thing that I find puzzling is that it got to rostov, that's pretty far from ukrainian lines
In the first month of that conflict, a fighter sized Ukrainian Tupolev TU-141 drone flew all hover Romania, Hungary and crashed crashed near the Croatian capital of Zagreb...without being intercepted. Air defences are full of holes and some are huge. For that small fiberglass target, it's clearly not surprising.
 
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