The War in the Ukraine

Abominable

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This is dumb. A week ago they could have withdrawn. Is delaying the Russians for a week really worth surrendering however many soldiers?

Ukraine reminds me of the red army during Operation Barbarossa.

Good watch, pretty much corroborates what everyone has been saying here.
Agree with most of what he says, but the conclusion he's drawn about TB-2s is wrong. It didn't fail because it was too small, it failed because it was too big.
 

Peas

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After this war end, I think RU government really need to consider about industrial manufacturing and the yong people education. After all, oil and natural gas will finally run out. You cannot only rely on sell resources to earn money.
 

FriedButter

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Ukrainian troops thwart humanitarian corridor – Donbas militia​

Only one civilian has walked out of the besieged Azot chemical plant, a military commander has said

The man walked out “by accident” as he was unaware of the planned evacuation, saying that Ukrainian troops hadn’t informed the civilians inside about it, Nikishin claimed.

And at around 8:10am Kiev’s forces at the plant began firing at Russian positions from a tank, a howitzer and a mortar, he added.

The evacuation of people is impossible under such circumstances and a decision was made to close the humanitarian corridor, Nikishin said.

According to the commander, talks with the Ukrainian military will continue to make sure that some 1,500 civilians at the plant are moved to safety.

This was just casually mentioned in the article but somehow there is far more then the original estimate.

According to the commander, talks with the Ukrainian military will continue to make sure that some 1,500 civilians at the plant are moved to safety.

1500? It went from 800 to supposedly 500 and now it’s 1500.
 

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Ukrainian troops thwart humanitarian corridor – Donbas militia​

Only one civilian has walked out of the besieged Azot chemical plant, a military commander has said

The man walked out “by accident” as he was unaware of the planned evacuation, saying that Ukrainian troops hadn’t informed the civilians inside about it, Nikishin claimed.

And at around 8:10am Kiev’s forces at the plant began firing at Russian positions from a tank, a howitzer and a mortar, he added.

The evacuation of people is impossible under such circumstances and a decision was made to close the humanitarian corridor, Nikishin said.

According to the commander, talks with the Ukrainian military will continue to make sure that some 1,500 civilians at the plant are moved to safety.

This was just casually mentioned in the article but somehow there is more of them now.

According to the commander, talks with the Ukrainian military will continue to make sure that some 1,500 civilians at the plant are moved to safety.

1500 huh. Last I heard, 300 of the 800 left and now there is 1500 remaining.
 

4Runner

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This is hilarious.

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Five Blunt Truths About the War in Ukraine​


Five sentences sum up the war in Ukraine as it stands now.

The Russians
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of precision-guided weapons. The Ukrainians
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of Soviet-era munitions. The world
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of patience for the war. The Biden administration is running out of ideas for how to wage it. And the Chinese are watching.

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[My Comment]
Why is China often showing up on the war, which is for all practical matters has nothing to do with China.
[/My Comment]
 

Aegis21

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This is dumb. A week ago they could have withdrawn. Is delaying the Russians for a week really worth surrendering however many soldiers?

Ukraine reminds me of the red army during Operation Barbarossa.

Agree with most of what he says, but the conclusion he's drawn about TB-2s is wrong. It didn't fail because it was too small, it failed because it was too big.
I think he said the drone is physically large but small in terms of payload.
 

sheogorath

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phrozenflame

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This is hilarious.

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Five Blunt Truths About the War in Ukraine​




[My Comment]
Why is China often showing up on the war, which is for all practical matters has nothing to do with China.
[/My Comment]
Fear mongering. After the Soviets and then Muslims, China is the new generational enemy for the next few decades.
 

Weaasel

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This is hilarious.

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Five Blunt Truths About the War in Ukraine​




[My Comment]
Why is China often showing up on the war, which is for all practical matters has nothing to do with China.
[/My Comment]
""" That will first mean getting Turkey to allow NATO warships to transit the Turkish straits to the Black Sea, which could entail some uncomfortable
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to Ankara. More dangerously, it could result in close encounters between NATO and Russian warships. But Russia has no legal right to blockade Ukraine’s last major port, no moral right to keep Ukrainian farm products from reaching global markets, and not enough maritime might to take on the U.S. Navy. """

Nuclear weapons are the equalizer.
 

Atomicfrog

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""" That will first mean getting Turkey to allow NATO warships to transit the Turkish straits to the Black Sea, which could entail some uncomfortable
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to Ankara. More dangerously, it could result in close encounters between NATO and Russian warships. But Russia has no legal right to blockade Ukraine’s last major port, no moral right to keep Ukrainian farm products from reaching global markets, and not enough maritime might to take on the U.S. Navy. """

Nuclear weapons are the equalizer.
The number of mines on the coast would deter any easy attempt to get maritime transport over there... they got thousand of wagon full of grain waiting at Poland border but the European don't want it by train because of infrastructures and logistic problems it seems.

If Nato would really want to get the grain they could do it by train... first they were stuck because of customs issues, after because of logistics.

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