The War in the Ukraine

sheogorath

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There seems to be an USAF team directly involved in the Ukranian Air Force day to day operation trying to compensate for its shortfalls, though they do try really hard to paint this as totally non-interventionist, even though the Ukrainians are even allowed to ask directly for AIM-120's and several of the ideas reach the Congress.

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Germany again:
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1535614991780483074

I don't see why Germany is agreeing to play the bad guy in this. We all know the reason why America doesn't want western tanks in the Ukraine is because they would last 10 minutes at most. A 152mm shell landing on a leopard or M1A2 is going to have the same effect as any other current tank.

Better to keep the aura of invincibility.
 
Fedupwithlies

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Abominable said:
Germany again:
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1535614991780483074

I don't see why Germany is agreeing to play the bad guy in this. We all know the reason why America doesn't want western tanks in the Ukraine is because they would last 10 minutes at most. A 152mm shell landing on a leopard or M1A2 is going to have the same effect as any other current tank.

Better to keep the aura of invincibility.
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Germany probably thinks Russia's escalation ladder goes right through them, so its in their interest to prevent things from escalating.
 
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Fedupwithlies

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FriedButter said:
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1535727312754327552

So apparently, a Ukrainian civilian was swimming just off the shore from an Odessa beach and got killed by swimming into a sea mine. Those mines are awfully close to the shore. That is like 10 secs off the shore.
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Sea mines are usually fused so they won't be set off by a human. Too many fish and stuff in the sea for a sea mine to fuse on contact with what a human can set off.

Of course, that's dependent on the fuse and also the quality of the fuse. If I was forced to guess, I'd say if it was a sea mine (which I'm not 100% convinced it is) it was a malfunction.

I'm not convinced it was a sea mine because, yea, it was really, really close to shore.

Maybe a land-mine buried in the sand?
 
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Fedupwithlies said:
Sea mines are usually fused so they won't be set off by a human. Too many fish and stuff in the sea for a sea mine to fuse on contact with what a human can set off.

Of course, that's dependent on the fuse and also the quality of the fuse. If I was forced to guess, I'd say if it was a sea mine (which I'm not 100% convinced it is) it was a malfunction.

I'm not convinced it was a sea mine because, yea, it was really, really close to shore.

Maybe a land-mine buried in the sand?
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It looks to be a mine to prevent Russian amphibious assault forces from landing.
 
Aegis21

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Fedupwithlies said:
Sea mines are usually fused so they won't be set off by a human. Too many fish and stuff in the sea for a sea mine to fuse on contact with what a human can set off.

Of course, that's dependent on the fuse and also the quality of the fuse. If I was forced to guess, I'd say if it was a sea mine (which I'm not 100% convinced it is) it was a malfunction.

I'm not convinced it was a sea mine because, yea, it was really, really close to shore.

Maybe a land-mine buried in the sand?
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Ukraine mined a lot of the beaches to prevent Russian amphibious assaults. They did so in Mariupol aswell.
 
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Atomicfrog said:
Lots of SU-25 downing lately, they got airframes by train ? Maybe they had airframes with needs of engines or parts and put them in use all at the same time ? They got wrecked the same day in two differrents regions...multiple Ukrainian jet getting mauled lately.
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Pretty sure they had stock of it from the leftover of Soviet Union

Claim of Germany sending Pzh2000 SPGs as late as 22nd of June

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1535715032020951040
 
sheogorath

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redion said:
Crazy drone video of a Ukrainian assault on a small Russian (DPR ore LPR ) position. They didn't see it coming and when they noticed it was over even with the drone overhead is the best way to summarize the videos below
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1535936474495033344
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Seems pretty common being oblivious to drones overhead. Something similar happened when DPR soldiers assaulted an Ukranian trench a few weeks ago or other videos when they get obliterated by artillery.

These guy probably ended executed in a ditch somewhere.
 
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