broadsword
Brigadier
Also perfect targets for AIM-9.
Don't they have countermeasures?
The War in the Ukraine
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Don't they have countermeasures?
Footage of a naval battle, Russian Project 03160 Raptor boats, Project 02510 BK-16 landing craft, with Ukrainian Magura V5 sea drones. The location and date of filming are not reported, presumably off the coast of Crimea. Technical information about the Russian Raptor boat is in the link to the video in the comments to the video. The battle uses Ukrainian Magura V5 sea drones armed with Soviet-made R-73 missiles designed to destroy air targets. Russian servicemen use Kord and PKM machine guns to destroy sea drones, and also use the RPG-26 grenade launcher.
The first case of the destruction of the Ukrainian MLRS M142 HIMARS by the Russian FPV drone "VT-40" has been recorded. The video was filmed near the village of Rusin Yar in the Donetsk direction. For an unknown reason, the Ukrainian MLRS M142 HIMARS came close to the front line, according to some sources at a distance of 10 to 30 km. Naturally, the HIMARS MLRS firing was immediately noticed. The Ukrainian MLRS HIMARS launcher was tracked on the march and hit by a drone. The M142 HIMARS MLRS was developed in 1996 by the American company Lockheed Martin, the cost of one installation is about 5 million dollars.
Why is the HIMARS suddenly too close to the front? Credit for the drone strike goes to the Rubicon unit, which answers to the MoD directly.
Some days ago.
Recon drone spotted an MLRS firing. Checked it out and it was a HIMARS. As luck turns out, there were two launchers. Instead of immediately calling a strike, the recon drone followed and tracked both launchers to their hanger, which is them hit by an Iskander.
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There's mention of the Hispaniola SPN unit had members that successfully used FPV drones against the sea drones. So this line of approach might work.
Wired FPV drone can reach 20km into the sea and a wireless FPV drone up to 25km. A Molinya winged FPV drone up to 30km and a Molinya-2 up to 60km. Lancets have been observed reaching up to 80km, there particular instances they were striking MiG-29s and Su-25s on an air base. If you want to use a Krasnopol-M2, you can reach out to 50km.
If you want to stretch it even more, use Geran or Gerbera drones with optical guidance systems, which already has been employed against more tactical targets. These variations we are seeing reports of attacks increasing, hitting command posts, forward bases, drone control points, ammo depots. etc,. Although the Gerbera was originally a Geran faking decoy, it's been upgraded with an optical system and a small warhead, literally turning it into a reconnaissance and a winged FPV drone. This explains why there's a sudden surge of objective control footage of Gerans striking targets from the air, instead of just smartphone cameras from the ground. There was a strike by a Gerbera drones against a moving Ukrainian Franken-Buk, causing a hit but not enough damage.
Footage of a Geran hitting the ammo depot of the AFU 142nd Brigade
Someone said using helicopters, and that's what the Russians have been using for a long time until a Mi-8 got shot down by a missile from a Magura. You might say the use of the helicopters were the cause why the drones were packing missiles in the first place, cause and effect.
Russians do use Ka-52s and Mi-28MNs to intercept and shoot down long range strike drones.
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broadsword
Brigadier
How were the sea drones detected? Those FPV drones couldn't be flying all the time searching.
Same way you do it on land, use loitering reconnaissance drones like ZALA Z-16, Supercam S350, or Orlan-10 or -30. Once these drones spot something, the UAV operators can call an attack on these coordinates.
You want to rely on "countermeasures"? They are a long way from foolproof. Standard CM are well known and catered for in AAM/SAM programming. The best countermeasure is being out of range.
Ka-52M and Mi-28NM like any modern top of the line attack helicopter have DIRCM which should spoof most IR missiles except for IRIS-T which is currently the only (a2a) missile that actually has officially advertised DIRCCM capabilities. Surely they'll work on AIM-9Ms which are basically antiques by now