The War in the Ukraine
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Yes, fighter bomber (Russian military telegram) confirms.
Su-30SM has to use machine gun on these boats, apparently no other effective ammunition.
The Ukrainians with Western assistance are more than capable of attaching a booster to propel the missile in the initial phase.
Now they are talking about two Su-30s being shot down.
This seems like an excellent solution for coastal and littoral operations.
The missile appears to lock onto the target with its seeker before launch (LOBL).
In the video, we see an autonomous thermal imaging system installed on the vessel. When a target enters its field of view, the system detects it, locks onto the target, and transmits the information to the missile's seeker, which is synchronized with the vessel's thermal imaging system. Upon confirming that the seeker is locked onto the target, indicated by the generation of a symbology, the operator launches.
The vessel's thermal imaging system is mobile, allowing 360° observation, while the missiles are positioned on a fixed platform. When a target approaches from a different direction, the vessel needs to turn to align itself with the target.
A natural evolution of this concept would be the development of a launch platform capable of rotating 360° or the use of missiles with vertical launch and LOAL (lock-on after launch) capability. This would reduce reaction time, eliminating the need for USV maneuvers.
There seems to be information from some Russian channels that say that 2 Su-30s were shot down by naval drones, 1 crew survived and the other was lost. The naval drones were equipped with AIM-9 Sidewinder missiles.
This seems like an excellent solution for coastal and littoral operations.
The missile appears to lock onto the target with its seeker before launch (LOBL).
In the video, we see an autonomous thermal imaging system installed on the vessel. When a target enters its field of view, the system detects it, locks onto the target, and transmits the information to the missile's seeker, which is synchronized with the vessel's thermal imaging system. Upon confirming that the seeker is locked onto the target, indicated by the generation of a symbology, the operator launches.
The vessel's thermal imaging system is mobile, allowing 360° observation, while the missiles are positioned on a fixed platform. When a target approaches from a different direction, the vessel needs to turn to align itself with the target.
A natural evolution of this concept would be the development of a launch platform capable of rotating 360° or the use of missiles with vertical launch and LOAL (lock-on after launch) capability. This would reduce reaction time, eliminating the need for USV maneuvers.
I'm really surprised by the difficulty in dealing with these usvs. Judging by the image of the magura-7 and comparing to the size of the aim-9, those usvs are like 8 meters long, not particularly small by any stretch of the imagination. They should be neither too difficult to detect nor destroy. Ka-52s armed with atgms should have no trouble eliminating them.
So where is the booster ? This is from your own image BTW.
and getting bigger particularly with VLS.
Russians did just that. Like how many USV was involved ? heard was 14. What happened to the other 13 or such ?
Problem with Russians is not detection but apparently need for a visual ID and actual lack of weapon "expedient" enough to deal with the small threat like that. VMF was not buying the Ka-52K so, no ATGM there. What they have is perhaps those Mi-14,Ka-29, Mi-8 which not necessarily equipped or even capable to deal with such target.
They dont want to expend Kh-31A's so they choose to gun run the thing with Flankers which have some success, tho obviously a disaster waiting to happen.
So you speculate the "real thing" would have booster. and then Budanov only send 3 drones hundreds of km away hoping to lure Russian fighters which basically a dopamine booster, not seeking other targets in supposedly target rich environment in Novorossiysk.
kinda hard to believe tbh.
I think the shoot down was a part of a large drone attack wave, not a isolated USV attack. Think it was the largest drone attack by Ukraine in 2025.