The War in the Ukraine

iBBz

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Apparently Trump and Vance are talking about 100 days to close the gap between Russian and Ukrainian peace proposals.

So in 100 days Russia will halt its advance, US will send in survey teams with PMC escorts, and a bunch of neo-Nazis are gonna be sitting around twiddling their thumbs bored out of their tiny minds. What could go wrong?
We will see how things turn out.
 

Soldier30

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The first footage of a detailed inspection of the inside of an abandoned Ukrainian Strv 122 tank. The tank was damaged in December 2023 and abandoned by the Ukrainian army in the Torsk operational direction. The Strv 122 tank is a Swedish modification of the German Leopard 2A5 tank.

 

Sinnavuuty

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Will Russia face more US support/weapons/intel now that the minerals deal has been signed?

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This arrangement reminded me of Iraq, the country’s reconstruction plan after the invasion.

For those who can remember, it’s worth revisiting a historical parallel: the so-called Development Fund for Iraq (DFI) — a financial structure created by the US and established in conjunction with the Iraqi interim government after the 2003 invasion.

The concept behind the DFI closely mirrors what is being proposed in Ukraine today. In the case of Iraq, oil revenues and seized assets belonging to Saddam Hussein and his government were pooled into this fund. The money was then distributed to foreign contractors, mainly Americans, tasked with carrying out post-war reconstruction projects.

The fund operated from 2003 to 2010. At the end of its existence, the US handed it over to the Iraqi government, which immediately shut it down. At that time, some $150 billion had passed through the DFI — a huge amount for a country with an annual GDP of just $50 billion at the time.

Much of the money went to public sector salaries, but a significant amount also financed infrastructure projects. Most of these contracts were awarded to American companies—without public bidding.

For example:
- Kellogg Brown & Root received approximately $3.5 billion.
- Bechtel Corporation received approximately $2.5 billion for work on water and power systems.
- DynCorp International received $1.5 billion to train Iraqi police and provide equipment.
- Parsons Corporation received half a billion dollars for schools and hospitals.

The original plans were ambitious: to rebuild power plants in Baghdad and Basra, modernize sewage systems in cities like Mosul and Najaf, build a refinery in Baiji, and renovate Baghdad International Airport.

But the results on the ground told a different story. Many projects were delayed, scaled back, or simply never completed. The Mosul plant was left half-finished, a water treatment plant at Sab al-Bor was abandoned, and hospitals and refineries remained in ruins. Subsequent audits revealed systemic abuses and mismanagement. The US-led Coalition Provisional Authority (CPA), headed by Paul Bremer, awarded contracts without competitive bidding. Prices were often inflated—Kellogg Brown & Root, for example, bought fuel in Kuwait for $1.18 a gallon and sold it to the US government for $2.64. Ernst & Young found dozens of “ghost projects,” mainly schools, that never existed beyond bureaucracy.

The US Government Accountability Office concluded that $18 billion simply disappeared. No one was held accountable. US courts declined to prosecute, arguing that DFI funds were not American taxpayers’ money and therefore outside their jurisdiction. Meanwhile, the head of the interim government, Paul Bremer, was awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom for his “outstanding contributions to the national interests of the United States.” Now, Ukraine appears poised to repeat this model: one in which profits flow to the West, oversight is minimal, and the burden is left to the host country. Especially in a country as corrupt as Ukraine, billions will disappear to enrich a small fraction of the country’s political elite and, of course, the Americans who simply play this game better than anyone else.
 

Barefoot

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This arrangement reminded me of Iraq, the country’s reconstruction plan after the invasion.

For those who can remember, it’s worth revisiting a historical parallel: the so-called Development Fund for Iraq (DFI) — a financial structure created by the US and established in conjunction with the Iraqi interim government after the 2003 invasion.

The concept behind the DFI closely mirrors what is being proposed in Ukraine today. In the case of Iraq, oil revenues and seized assets belonging to Saddam Hussein and his government were pooled into this fund. The money was then distributed to foreign contractors, mainly Americans, tasked with carrying out post-war reconstruction projects.

The fund operated from 2003 to 2010. At the end of its existence, the US handed it over to the Iraqi government, which immediately shut it down. At that time, some $150 billion had passed through the DFI — a huge amount for a country with an annual GDP of just $50 billion at the time.

Much of the money went to public sector salaries, but a significant amount also financed infrastructure projects. Most of these contracts were awarded to American companies—without public bidding.

For example:
- Kellogg Brown & Root received approximately $3.5 billion.
- Bechtel Corporation received approximately $2.5 billion for work on water and power systems.
- DynCorp International received $1.5 billion to train Iraqi police and provide equipment.
- Parsons Corporation received half a billion dollars for schools and hospitals.

The original plans were ambitious: to rebuild power plants in Baghdad and Basra, modernize sewage systems in cities like Mosul and Najaf, build a refinery in Baiji, and renovate Baghdad International Airport.

But the results on the ground told a different story. Many projects were delayed, scaled back, or simply never completed. The Mosul plant was left half-finished, a water treatment plant at Sab al-Bor was abandoned, and hospitals and refineries remained in ruins. Subsequent audits revealed systemic abuses and mismanagement. The US-led Coalition Provisional Authority (CPA), headed by Paul Bremer, awarded contracts without competitive bidding. Prices were often inflated—Kellogg Brown & Root, for example, bought fuel in Kuwait for $1.18 a gallon and sold it to the US government for $2.64. Ernst & Young found dozens of “ghost projects,” mainly schools, that never existed beyond bureaucracy.

The US Government Accountability Office concluded that $18 billion simply disappeared. No one was held accountable. US courts declined to prosecute, arguing that DFI funds were not American taxpayers’ money and therefore outside their jurisdiction. Meanwhile, the head of the interim government, Paul Bremer, was awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom for his “outstanding contributions to the national interests of the United States.” Now, Ukraine appears poised to repeat this model: one in which profits flow to the West, oversight is minimal, and the burden is left to the host country. Especially in a country as corrupt as Ukraine, billions will disappear to enrich a small fraction of the country’s political elite and, of course, the Americans who simply play this game better than anyone else.

And ISIS was spawned and spread terror across the whole region, and beyond (Syria now has an ex ISIS commander as head of government in Damascus (everytime i think about that i struggle to really believe it, ex ISIS, HTS (alQaeada terrorist) with a US bounty on his head, that earlier served 5 years in US custody).

Yeah, i wonder where all the money went ... Oh, remember when ISIS got a big break and about 2000 of them (i forget the number and so im just making one up, but it was more than 1000 and less than 5000) walked into an Iraqi town up north [Mosul] and drove away 2000 Humvees, along with billions of dollars in cash that was just sitting in a bank - oopsie.

Should we expect the same but with Ukrainian flavoured neo-Nazis.
 
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generalmeng

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The deal is not between the US and Ukraine, but rather between the US and Zelensky, an illegitimate leader operating outside his time frame in violation of the Ukrainian constitution, so yes, Russia will simply ignore this deal and continue to prosecute the war as if no deal was signed. Once a new legitimate leader is elected, he or she can tell the US to go pound sand and the deal becomes void and null.
But Ukraine dont have anything rare earth critical minerals.

I asked chatgpt, and it said prior to 2022, there wasn't any public source about the any of those "critical mineral, rare earth metal" existance
 

Barefoot

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But Ukraine dont have anything rare earth critical minerals.

I asked chatgpt, and it said prior to 2022, there was nothing public about it

Hmmm, i wonder what the real reason is ... they dont need the oil, its not about democracy or protecting babies in incubators ...

Sorry, you were talking about Ukraine!

I'm sure it is all honourable this time, that was then this is now and i'm sure we can all give the US the benefit of the doubt, because of God and American's are not communists ...
 

iBBz

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But Ukraine dont have anything rare earth critical minerals.

I asked chatgpt, and it said prior to 2022, there wasn't any public source about the any of those "critical mineral, rare earth metal" existance
The deal is about taking all of Ukraine, including its current and future infrastructure, and prioritizing US investment over others, such as China for example. Of course some say the terms have changed and became better for Ukraine, but we don't know exactly what's what at this point.
 

Barefoot

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That was quick, i thought they might drag it out a bit:

Trump gets the deal signed

$50 million of drones on their way to Ukraine

$300+ million of F-16 spares plus support on their way

US announces no longer going to mediate peace

Was all that done in less than two days?

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Remember, back in the day the US coaxed Iraq to invade Kuwait, then they destroyed Iraq and created ISIS to fuck up the whole region and put an ex ISIS alQeada terrorist in power in Damascus, it took a few decades but they manged it. Now watch them continue to fuck eastern Europe up and put a Ukrainian neo-Nazi terrorist in power in Moscow (you might think that is silly and too far fetched and claim this is different because of this that and the other; but just think what people would have thought and said back in the day if i'd said alQaeda would be in power in Damascus and the US would put them there - post 911) .
 
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jabronlames99

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That was quick, i thought they might drag it out a bit:

Trump gets the deal signed

$50 million of drones on their way to Ukraine

$300+ million of F-16 spares plus support on their way

US announces no longer going to mediate peace

Was all that done in less than two days?

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Remember, back in the day the US coaxed Iraq to invade Kuwait, then they destroyed Iraq and created ISIS to fuck up the whole region and put an ex ISIS alQeada terrorist in power in Damascus, it took a few decades but they manged it. Now watch them continue to fuck eastern Europe up and put a Ukrainian neo-Nazi terrorist in power in Moscow (you might think that is silly and too far fetched and claim this is different because of this that and the other; but just think what people would have thought and said back in the day if i'd said alQaeda would be in power in Damascus and the US would put them there - post 911) .

What? You're just spitballing half-baked thoughts. Are you 15?
This is not the YouTube comment section.
 

Soldier30

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Footage of a competent combined assault by Russian troops on the village of Novoolenivka in Donbas. First, Russian FPV drones attack a Ukrainian BMP-1TS, a Bogdana self-propelled gun, and a mortar in the village. Drone strikes on buildings are also visible. After this, Russian attack aircraft enter the village on motorcycles. As a result of the battle, Ukrainian units leave the village of Novoolenivka, as shown at the end of the video.

 
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